France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp
October 24, 2016 at 7:35 am
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France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp
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December 18, 2016 at 9:34 pm
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Or maybe a lot of them have family or community in Britain.
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp
December 18, 2016 at 9:53 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2016 at 9:54 pm by SteelCurtain.)
Nobody said anything about rights. These are humans. I don't think it's fair to assume their motivations are solely to be a thorn in your side and take from you.
Can you imagine having to leave your country, settling in a place where you don't speak the language? France == England, for all they know. Maybe the only thing they know is in an equally foreign place across the channel. I am attempting to explain a possible motivation for returning to Calais besides them all being 'ungrateful fuckers.' I know you don't want them there. I get/understand that. What I am suggesting is take a step back from hating all of them so you can see that they are just humans trying to live and cling to anything familiar. If they get turned away from Calais, then they will have to settle in France. Hopefully they will be successful there. 
Furthermore, given the anti-immigrant views held more widely (I assume) by the French, can you blame them for not wanting to stay in a place where they're not welcome?
 (December 18, 2016 at 10:13 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Furthermore, given the anti-immigrant views held more widely (I assume) by the French, can you blame them for not wanting to stay in a place where they're not welcome? Isn't the point of illegal immigration to aggressively try to get into a place you're not legally welcome to be? If they were welcome in the UK but not in France then I imagine there'd be no problem and the French would just say cool, go to Britain, they want you there. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp
December 18, 2016 at 11:11 pm
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(December 18, 2016 at 11:06 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:(December 18, 2016 at 10:13 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Furthermore, given the anti-immigrant views held more widely (I assume) by the French, can you blame them for not wanting to stay in a place where they're not welcome? Now there's something to be proud of! (December 18, 2016 at 11:04 pm)paulpablo Wrote:(December 18, 2016 at 10:13 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Furthermore, given the anti-immigrant views held more widely (I assume) by the French, can you blame them for not wanting to stay in a place where they're not welcome? Well, I think immigrants, legal or not, decide on this or that country for one or more of several reasons, some of which SC has already laid out. As.for why France doesn't simply pass them along, do they have any obligations through the EU to preventing it to another EU country? (December 18, 2016 at 11:11 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(December 18, 2016 at 11:06 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: They are in for a treat if they ever manage to reach Britain then. I believe that we should accept a limited number of unaccompanied child refugees but they must pass age verification checks, integrate into the local culture and learn the language. In the end, we should be doing more to help our own. |
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