New Clinton email controversy

[Minimalist]

As far as their character and integrity go, they both seem equally pretty bad. Hilary is just more politically correct with how she says things. At the end of the day they are both greedy and dishonest and only out for themselves. I can't and won't stand behind either of them.

A testament to false equivalency.

[Aroura]

I do get tired of hearing the equally bad narrative, though. Seems everyone heard it and bought into it, but mostly I find reasoning behind it flawed. Still, to each their own I guess.

[GrandizerII]

I do get tired of hearing the equally bad narrative, though.  Seems everyone heard it and bought into it, but mostly I find reasoning behind it flawed.  Still, to each their own I guess.

It is tiring. I mean, I get it. Hillary is not overly honest, but then again, this is the case with most male politicians as well. Obama himself wasn't exactly the most honest person. But nobody will say Obama is just as bad as Trump.

[Minimalist]

[Aroura]

I do get tired of hearing the equally bad narrative, though.  Seems everyone heard it and bought into it, but mostly I find reasoning behind it flawed.  Still, to each their own I guess.

It is tiring. I mean, I get it. Hillary is not overly honest, but then again, this is the case with most male politicians as well. Obama himself wasn't exactly the most honest person. But nobody will say Obama is just as bad as Trump.

Yes, exactly.  She quite a bit more honest than most, in fact.  And every person who wishes to become president must have something of an inflated ego, strong personality, self confidence and savvy, it just seems that people don't like to see those qualities in a woman, the exact same qualities are often renamed to something much less positive when viewed in a female.

[Catholic_Lady]

I actually don't consider Trump to be pro life at all. I know he claims to be, but I am hard pressed to believe him. I think the only person he cares about is himself quite honestly.

[Thumpalumpacus]

As for my own part, I can't decide which one is worse lol. It's just pretty bad that it's come to the point of being between those 2. 

The child raping neo nazi of course. The worst you can say about Hilary is that she was stupid with email security.

Oh, and to those who argued that Comey was required to disclose invsetigative materials to congress, any cop worth his salt would have told them that the legislature interfering in due process of the law is itself a crime and given them the two fingered salute. And that is what he would have done if Drumpfuck was the target.

Apparently you missed my acknowledgement of error and retraction. Scroll up, it's there.

[Catholic_Lady]

Look Tazi, it all changes depending on what people feel is most important. (also, stop saying Drumpf andstuff, it just looks childish, really no better than when people say Hitlery).

CL may be willing to overlook Trumps faults and lack of any experience because he is on the side of an important issue to her.  I'm guessing, abortion (possibly immigration?  I don't know much of her social views, just the abortion stance).  He wants to make abortion illegal again at the federal level.  Other people dislike Trump but are willing to vote for him because of the supreme court issues (they want to repeal gay marriage, abortion, and see this country become more socially conservative again), or about immigration (they fear the other, and Trump play hard to those fears), etc.

She would not be the only person who looks sideways at Hillary for her social policies, the same policies you and I see as reasons to vote for her, are reasons CL may not like her.  Everyone has different priorities.  IT doesn't make CL blind or stupid, just different from you.  If we can't stop name calling and being insulting, how do you think we will ever come together as a country?  Hear her out.  Find common ground.  If you really believe Hillary is going to help our country and Trump hurt it, then give better reasoning ON THOSE COMMON GROUNDS than that Trump is an a-hole.  We already all know that.

This is one of the reasons I think are politics have become more polorized, is because they have come to revolve more and more around social issues.  

So here is my reasoning, CL, as to why I think Hillary will be better than Trump for all Americans, Liberal and conservative.  
1) Experience. You may not like the fact that she is a lifelong politician, but would you hire an inexperienced person to do...well...anything important? The president is the highest level of politics in our country.  It seems best, to me, to hire someone experienced at the job, even if her experience isn't all good.  Would you hire someone who had never taken an engineering class to design and build a highrise building?

2) Diplomacy.  She will keep foreign relations stable (regardless of rhetoric you may have heard).  We have very good foreign relations right now in comparison to what they were in 2004.  Trump insults, attacks, and sues literally everyone who he perceives has slighted him.  How well do you think that will work when a country leader insults him, even on accident?  Do you honestly believe he would be able to handle it in a mature and political manor?

3) Guts.  Hillary has been under deep scrutiny, and even attack, her entire career.  She can stand cool and calm while someone calls her terrible names right to her face.  She has fought on with her career of choice, even though people dislike her, against all odds, she fights on.
Trump gives up and files bankrupcy, and blames everyone else for all of his woes, on a regular basis.  Who do you want as president, a fighter or a quitter?

Yes, some policy may be against your personal opinion.  I don't like all of her policies either.  But these are the fundamental questions that we need to ask about ANY person we wish to vote for as president.

Also, hi, and hope you are feeling well.

I appreciate this good and well thought out post. Perhaps you are right that Hilary is better than Trump, all things considered. But at the end of the day I just can't in good conscience support either one of them because neither represents anything I stand for, regardless of whether there even is a lesser of 2 evils or not. They are just both too far out there. I really hope our country can do better next time in choosing decent candidates.

[Aroura]

Yes, well, without specifics, not much I can say to respond to "equally bad" and "too far out". I don't know exactly what you dislike about either of them. That's ok though, I think the majority of people really vote mostly based on their gut and emotion, and not with facts and reason. Our clickbait social media world makes that easier than ever.

[Aractus]

It was a little bit more than that. He was also accused by multiple other women of sexual assault.

But sexual assault is a lesser crime. Well lesser than Clinton's war crimes I mean. As for breaching the Espionage Act it is probably a greater crime than sexual assault as well. And that's if the allegations are even true, some of the allegations as I previously pointed out were just Trump soliciting sex, not assaulting people as a sexual predator.

I'll repeat what Paul Murray and Ross Cameron had to say yesterday morning - the US media has been extremely biased in their reporting. When they report on Trump's sexual allegations they report as if he's guilty, when they report on the Clinton emails they report as if people should wait for the FBI to make their findings before drawing to conclusions.

Ross also made the point that Gen. Petraeus was convicted under the 'Official Secrets Act' for sharing just 3 classified emails with only one person. And those emails never became public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uH2PyZAx-0