Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread

[Minimalist]

I just wish the subject of the fight was more interesting.  Nude, female, midget, mud-wrestling or something.  This jesus bullshit really blows.

[Fireball]

I just wish the subject of the fight was more interesting.  Nude, female, midget, mud-wrestling or something.  This jesus bullshit really blows.

IK,R? It's like Harry Potter and...his adversary, whoever that is. <ducks>

[Doubting Thomas]

Let's inject some fireworks: Topic for debate, are Catholics true Christians or not?

[vorlon13]

Jesus was big on the bible, he had all his exploits recorded there.

The bible also mentions married bishops.

The bible is the inerrant word of god.

The catholics do not countenance married bishops

Therefore catholics are not christians

[Edward John]

Proof Mary is without Sin and is the ark of the covenant!!!

• The Ark of the Old Covenant carried the Word of God made stone while the Ark of the New Covenant carried the Word of God mad flesh when Mary was pregnant with Jesus.
  
  
• The old Ark of the Covenant disappears in Jer 3:16. The new Ark of the Covenant resurfaces in Revelation 11:19 as the woman with 12 stars around her head.
  
  
• The Ark of the Covenant has been restored to the temple, which is now heaven (See also Heb 9:1-12)
  
  
• A woman with a crown is there - the new Ark
  
  
• The woman in Revelation bore the King of the Israelites (Jesus) - who will rule the nations and is at God's throne
  
  
• The devil is very interested in destroying her but she is safe
  
  
• Her children are all faithful Christians who "follow the lamb" (Rev 12:17)
  
  
• The Israelites knew God used the Ark powerfully and they brought it into battle (Jos. 6:3-4). The Ark of the New Covenant, Mary, is introduced into the heavenly battle against Satan (Rev 11:19)
  
  

Proof Mary is the queen of Heaven!!!

Revelation 12:1-2; 5; 17 to the mix in demonstrating Mary’s queenship:

And a great sign appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child. . . . [S]he brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne. . . . Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus.

Here Mary is clearly depicted as a cosmic queen giving birth to both Christ and all Christians, all the while wearing her royal crown. She rules and reigns with her divine son at the center of the perennial battle between the kingdom of God and the kingdoms of this world in union with “the serpent” of old.

My heart is inditing a good matter: I speak of the things which I have made touching the king: my tongue is the pen of a ready writer.

2 Thou art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever.

3 Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty.

4 And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things.

5 Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee.

6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

8 All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.

9 Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.

10 Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house;

11 So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him.

12 And the daughter of Tyre shall be there with a gift; even the rich among the people shall intreat thy favour.

13 The king's daughter is all glorious within: her clothing is of wrought gold.

14 She shall be brought unto the king in raiment of needlework: the virgins her companions that follow her shall be brought unto thee.

15 With gladness and rejoicing shall they be brought: they shall enter into the king's palace.

16 Instead of thy fathers shall be thy children, whom thou mayest make princes in all the earth.

17 I will make thy name to be remembered in all generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever. Pslam 45

At your right hand stands the queen in gold of Ophir. Hear, O daughter, consider, and incline your ear; forget your people and your father’s house; and the king will desire your beauty. Since he is your lord, bow to him; the people of Tyre will sue your favor with gifts, the richest of the people with all kinds of wealth. The daughter of the king is decked in her chamber with gold-woven robes; in many-colored robes she is led to the king, with her virgin companions, her escort, in her train. With joy and gladness they are led along as they enter the palace of the king. Instead of your fathers shall be your sons; you will make them princes in all the earth. I will cause your name to be celebrated in all generations; therefore the peoples will praise you forever and ever (Hebrews. 9b-17).

The inspired author of Hebrews 1:8-9 quotes verses 6-7 of this very text as referring to Christ, his divinity, and his kingship. Set in the context of a royal wedding, on the literal level this psalm referred to the king of Israel, likely Solomon, receiving a new bride, with his mother standing at his right to symbolize her power and authority. But on the spiritual level it refers to Christ and Mary.

Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:54

The Son of Man will give you that food. He is the only one qualified by God the Father to give it to you.”

Is not in the Bible.

[LastPoet]

ARGUMENT FROM FORMATTING.

1- USE BIG BOLDED COLOURFULL FONT
2- THEREFORE, GOD EXISTS.

[Homeless Nutter]

Proof Mary is without Sin and is the ark of the covenant!!![...]

OK, but can you prove that Mary didn't take it in the a*se?
Jesus could have been born, because she farted...

[LastPoet]

By all the stars in the Universe, guys, colouring your text, a decent argument does not make.

[Mr Greene]

[Minimalist]

You know what, Eddie?  Dripshit is the dumbest motherfucker on these boards....but you are challenging him for the title.


By the way this bullshit mary cult was only allowed at the Council of Ephesus in the mid 5th century. Apparently even bullshit takes time to get going!