How bad do you hate the Donald?

[Bob Kelso]

I always wonder if these attitudes also apply towards people who are just fearing what this change has in store for them. Personally, I am terrified of Pence's previous stances and what he may do in the future to people like me now that he has this level of power. I don't think seeing the world burn is worth the pain some people will feel because of this. And no, I'm not just talking about the "whining SJW crowd" you are referring to. Not every groan is lumped in with them.

I'm not just directing this question at you, either. You just had the most recent post of this nature.

It's not so much "watch the world burn" as it is "this is reality, deal with it" and laughing hysterically at the people who have worked so hard to force their manufactured (manufractured more like) version of reality on others try to process this and fail in tears. 

People crying, pissing and moaning because Trump won isn't solving anything. If they were that invested and worried then they should have voted (obviously a lot of them didn't), and if they did they should start organizing for the 4 years to come.

[Jesster]

I always wonder if these attitudes also apply towards people who are just fearing what this change has in store for them. Personally, I am terrified of Pence's previous stances and what he may do in the future to people like me now that he has this level of power. I don't think seeing the world burn is worth the pain some people will feel because of this. And no, I'm not just talking about the "whining SJW crowd" you are referring to. Not every groan is lumped in with them.

I'm not just directing this question at you, either. You just had the most recent post of this nature.

It's not so much "watch the world burn" as it is "this is reality, deal with it" and laughing hysterically at the people who have worked so hard to force their manufactured (manufractured more like) version of reality on others try to process this and fail in tears. 

People crying, pissing and moaning because Trump won isn't solving anything. If they were that invested and worried then they should have voted (obviously a lot of them didn't), and if they did they should start organizing for the 4 years to come.

Ah, thank you. I think I understand your point of view more now. Personally, I am kind of going the way you are suggesting. Instead of complaining about changing the past, it's definitely better to work on the future. I am still terrified, but you can't have courage if you don't feel fear first.

[abaris]

Ah, thank you. I think I understand your point of view more now. Personally, I am kind of going the way you are suggesting. Instead of complaining about changing the past, it's definitely better to work on the future. I am still terrified, but you can't have courage if you don't feel fear first.

That's rather obvious. But it doesn't change the fact that one doesn't have to have sympathies for the ones voting something like that into office.

I can only repeat what I said earlier. Always be advised to take any politician who presented himself as an authoritarian at his word. There's absolutely no reason why he shouldn't do or at least attempt what he promised to do. Checks and balances are pretty low at the moment. Many things Trump announced are more or less in line with Republicans. Climate change policies for starters, but also the intended rollback on many pieces of social legislations and minority rights. Abortion may be on the table also, given what he said, given what many republicans want.

[Alex K]

I have the distinct impression that the socially regressive agenda which the old white men in the republican party will now try to push on everyone via their new found power, isn't actually at all what your average Trump voter wanted. I mean, I'm pretty sure they didn't vote Trump to get governed by fucking Gingrich, lol.

[abaris]

I have the distinct impression that the socially regressive agenda which the old white men in the republican party will now try to push on everyone via their new found power, isn't actually at all what your average Trump voter wanted. I mean, I'm pretty sure they didn't vote Trump to get governed by fucking Gingrich, lol.

So?

It's done and it's not as if any rightwing supporter will take any lesson from that. They still believe these to be standup guys for the disenfranchised and fighters against the establishment. That's why I often use the vulgar term to describe rightwing supporters. People asking to be fucked with a sordid lead pipe. And asking for a second helping if they actually belong to any kind of social minority.

[Doubting Thomas]

I don't hate him, but I hate what he represents.  And I'm really concerned with what he and the Republicans are going to do to the country.

We are closing in on it.

https://youtu.be/sGUNPMPrxvA

I think we're already there.

[Doubting Thomas]

People crying, pissing and moaning because Trump won isn't solving anything. If they were that invested and worried then they should have voted (obviously a lot of them didn't), and if they did they should start organizing for the 4 years to come.

I agree, but unfortunately I can see a lot of them looking at this election and saying, "Well, most people voted for Hillary but Trump won.  Obviously my vote won't count so I'm not going to vote."  No, they'll just sit around and bitch at the state of the country and at the government, but they won't do anything to change it.

And once again I'll say that the claims of voter fraud are patently absurd in a country where half the eligible voters can't even bother to get out and vote.