Any anti-feminists? Any feminists?

[ScienceAf]

[ScienceAf]

hilary bragged about letting this man free. Bragged about letting a pedophile free. Which she did do. Are you gonna say she joked about that?

And Trump didn't (at least any confirmed reports) sexually assault anyone.

And dude, grow sense of humor. I'm sure suicide jokes deeply hurt people too.

I have a great sense of humor.  I laugh at a good joke about anything, regardless of the subject.

She didn't brag about anything.  Try actually listening to the original source before you talk about things.  Incase you didn't know, she actually requested to be taken OFF the case because she was so horrified by the prospect of defending a suspected child rapist.

Trump admitted he does those things to women.  What more confirmation should you need?

I wonder... If Trump admitted it. Is that why the rape accuser dropped charges?

"I have a great sense of humor. I laugh at a good joke about anything."

Trump was joking. If you have a "great sense of humor" you would understand that.

[Mermaid]

This thread gave me cancer.

How so?

If false dichotomies were an Olympic sport, you'd be in the running for a medal.

[The Grand Nudger]

[ScienceAf]

[The Grand Nudger]

Citations for -what-.......lol?  You didn't just drop a link and hope it would fly, did you?  Because I like to read these links that people take the time to find and post......besides, I don;t know why you'd need to be so disingenuous about it, it's not like institutional racism is a problem for you.  The problem is people pointing it out, clearly, lol.

Institutional Racism isn't a problem for me!
How did you know?
I'm brown, my family can't speak proper English and guess what. The only time we've been treated differently is when it's personal, not by the institution.

Good for you.  There are -other- brown people in the world, you know...lol. If it's an issue of jealosy, though, don't worry, the great white we will get around to you eventually.

The government isn't against coloured people and nor is the education.
Give me an example where the institution is involved in racist practice.

I know you have the internet.  Let wonder lead you to knowledge.

So, what were those citations of and for, again?

[Bob Kelso]

I know this has been a few pages back but it stuck out to me. 

Personally I don't have any issue with people calling themselves whatever they like, though you have to admit it's no small wonder why so many people shit on the feminist label these days. You know, what with all the non-issue virtue signaling, name calling, racist, well-poisoners you have constantly in the limelight.

Honestly, I just see that as people picking out the worst examples and pointing fingers at the larger group because of it. It's the same thing that happens with partisan politics. The finger pointing is so overdone that I end up just rolling my eyes at it eventually. It gets nothing done.

A fair point.

[TaraJo]

I've had a lot of internal conflict over this issue over the years. In the end, I find that there's one specific f-word that it's more helpful to avoid and have discussions without it.

Do I believe in gender equality? Yes, absolutely, I do. But I also believe that there are a lot of people who use a lot of progressive sounding buzzwords to make themselves sound like they've got the moral high ground, but their actions show otherwise.

Do I think there's a rape culture? Sometimes. Sometimes, hyperbole is used to turn innocent actions into the equalivant of rape while legitimate rape is actually ignored.

Do I think male privilege exists? In some ways, certainly. Men do have most of the positions of political or financial power. In other ways, men also make up the majority of suicides and prison population as well (and don't even get me started on family courts).

Do I think the wage gap is real? It's there, no doubt about that, but the majority of the wage gap comes from choice. Women choose to go into lower paying jobs, to work part time or to get jobs with more convienent hours. After you take that into consideration, the wage gap is still there, but it's been shrunk into the single digits.

Personally, I think the biggest obsticle to gender equality are people on both sides who adamantly refuse to listen to each other. It's frustrating that we're all so adamant that we be heard, but nobody is willing to listen to someone else. I mean, I still remember the first rule to my communication class: if you can't see someone else's perspective, you're failing at communication. And in regards to feminism, a lot of people, both feminists and anti-feminists, are failing HARD.

[Faith No More]

14 pages on feminism...

*skips*

Was it as bad as expected?

[Edwardo Piet]

I'm pro-equal rights of the sexes.