Differences from societal norms

[Edwardo Piet]

Didn't claim there was more than that. Pay attention.

You sure don't handle being agreed with very well.  What more is there to pay attention to having already conceded that fetuses are the only thing ended in an abortion.

EP has never handled agreement or disagreement well.

[Catholic_Lady]

Someone always has to come and get alllll technical.... 

Fine, define technical and norm. And while I'm at it, define to and all! I understand get.

Haha 

[Excited Penguin]

Didn't claim there was more than that. Pay attention.

You sure don't handle being agreed with very well.  What more is there to pay attention to having already conceded that fetuses are the only thing ended in an abortion.

What you said could very well be interpreted as to mean fetuses are not important and we shouldn't worry about them. How is that agreeing with me ? 

I'm don't necessarily believe abortions policies should be reversed right now. If I did I'd try to get more involved. It's a mere opinion that they are to be avoided if possible and that we should look into it that we can.

[brewer]

Fine, define technical and norm. And while I'm at it, define to and all! I understand get.

Haha 

Haha? HAHA? What does that mean? Is that a contraction/slang of has? OK, define has.

Where is Bill C when you need him?

[Catholic_Lady]

The loss of opportunity is a harm regardless of whether it is experienced or not. For example, you could not get a job because of a false rumor. You didn't know about the rumor. Nor did you know that you didn't get the job because of the rumor. Even still you were harmed by it.

Someone who is never born doesn't just fail to gain an opportunity (not technically a "loss" of opportunity because you can't lose what you've never had)... they don't have to suffer either. And again, if no one was born the world would stop being fucked up. Death=bad, not being born=neutral or good.

Hm? Death can happen before birth. As is evident by the many women who lose their babies while still pregnant with them. If they are far enough in gestational age, death is identified by the heart beat stopping. Heartbeat begins at 16 days after conception.

[Whateverist]

You sure don't handle being agreed with very well.  What more is there to pay attention to having already conceded that fetuses are the only thing ended in an abortion.

What you said could very well be interpreted as to mean fetuses are not important and we shouldn't worry about them. How is that agreeing with me ? 

Pulling your leg of course but while entirely fine with leaving it to each woman to decide how she wants to handle the complications ensuing from our mutual pursuit of pleasure.  Happy to give my input, but it isn't my body so I recognize it is her call.  But haven't we been around this bend more than a couple times recently?  Letting it go ...

[Edwardo Piet]

Someone who is never born doesn't just fail to gain an opportunity (not technically a "loss" of opportunity because you can't lose what you've never had)... they don't have to suffer either. And again, if no one was born the world would stop being fucked up. Death=bad, not being born=neutral or good.

Hm? Death can happen before birth. As is evident by the many women who lose their babies while still pregnant with them. If they are far enough in gestational age, death is identified by the heart beat stopping. Heartbeat begins at 16 days after conception.

What I mean is death to a fetus before birth is not the same as death to a baby after birth.

[AceBoogie]

I don't really like most people. I'm pretty antisocial and even though I'm good at socializing (and honestly took time to practice being good at it over the years), I usually feel fake talking to most people and almost always have no interest in what people are talking about.

Even though I believe the USA is one of the greatest countries in the world and probably the best place to live when it comes to personal freedoms, I really don't feel any allegiance to the United States. I don't feel like an American I just feel like me. I certainly don't feel any allegiance to my state, city or neighborhood. This is more than likely directly related to how antisocial I am.

I don't really understand the concept of legal marriage. Like I get the whole concept of the ceremony and wanting to spend the rest of your life with someone, and I understand how romantic that can be, especially for women. And I would love to make a woman feel that special and loved some day.. but the concept of signing a legal document binding you financially, or otherwise, to another person seems so bizarre to me.

To be honest, I don't really feel any conflict with my ideas and societal norms in the sense that I don't feel like any of my ideas should be more accepted and I don't necessarily feel like any other individuals ideas should be more scorned. I understand that I'm an outsider and society shouldn't have to change just because I believe in or don't believe in certain things.

I suppose there are certain aspects of society that I find unfortunate. American consumerism is completely out of control. American propaganda completely flies over most folks heads. Most people don't take time to examine themselves or the way they think. But these things just are what they are.

[paulpablo]

Hm? Death can happen before birth. As is evident by the many women who lose their babies while still pregnant with them. If they are far enough in gestational age, death is identified by the heart beat stopping. Heartbeat begins at 16 days after conception.

What I mean is death to a fetus before birth is not the same as death to a baby after birth.

I think that depends on what stage of development the fetus is at.  I personally think there's a point when you basically are killing a human baby that just hasn't been born yet.

[robvalue]

Thanks very much for your answers everyone, most interesting