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Vaccines both good and bad?

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Vaccines both good and bad?
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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 19, 2016 at 2:23 pm
They are working in most of cases, media loves to take the 0.1% of cases where people get hurt and turn it upside down.
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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 19, 2016 at 2:25 pm
(November 14, 2016 at 4:41 am)goombah111 Wrote: maybe they work but cause harm as well?

family guy just did ep on this.

id say sure, they work. but then again, im a conspiracy theorist.

I can see some people having a bad reaction to certain vaccines, but I would imagine it to be pretty rare.
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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 19, 2016 at 2:52 pm (This post was last modified: November 19, 2016 at 2:57 pm by A Handmaid.)
Do you really want to die from a disease we can cure almost 100% of the time?

I feel like dying from a disease is worse than getting injured by a vaccine( in rare cases )
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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 20, 2016 at 6:56 pm
(November 14, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(November 14, 2016 at 11:56 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: And it's got a plus sign and minus sign, which means it also has math in it!

I bet you anything it's suspended in a dihydrogen monoxide solutiom, and you know I'm sure how many people die from that horrible shit.

what the hell is dihydrogen monoxide. in my 4 years in chemistry classes i never learned about that.
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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 20, 2016 at 6:58 pm
Two words: "Goodbye Polio"

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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 20, 2016 at 6:58 pm (This post was last modified: November 20, 2016 at 7:02 pm by goombah111.)
(November 14, 2016 at 7:30 am)Jesster Wrote: Mercury is not in vaccines for the same reason that oxygen is not in water. Once it is chemically combined, it is not the same substance anymore. This has been the biggest misunderstanding that started the whole anti-vax movement.

The "mercury" used in some vaccines is actually "thiomersal". Mercury is a single element, while thiomersal is a more complex molecule. Here's a visual of thiomersal for you.

thimerosal is definitely toxic in relatively low doses.
(November 14, 2016 at 10:00 am)Faith No More Wrote:
(November 14, 2016 at 7:00 am)goombah111 Wrote: my theory is they make the virus, make the vaccine, release the virus, release the vaccine.

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So the government created measles in the ninth century so they could sell a vaccine 1,000+ years later?

they did cause the Lyme Disease outbreak after all. did they create it? maybe not, but they definitely released it. intentionally or unintentionally.
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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 20, 2016 at 7:06 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 6:58 pm)goombah111 Wrote:
(November 14, 2016 at 7:30 am)Jesster Wrote: Mercury is not in vaccines for the same reason that oxygen is not in water. Once it is chemically combined, it is not the same substance anymore. This has been the biggest misunderstanding that started the whole anti-vax movement.

The "mercury" used in some vaccines is actually "thiomersal". Mercury is a single element, while thiomersal is a more complex molecule. Here's a visual of thiomersal for you.

thimerosal is definitely toxic in relatively low doses.
(November 14, 2016 at 10:00 am)Faith No More Wrote: So the government created measles in the ninth century so they could sell a vaccine 1,000+ years later?

they did cause the Lyme Disease outbreak after all. did they create it? maybe not, but they definitely released it. intentionally or unintentionally.

I would love to hear how this happened. Please do share.
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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 21, 2016 at 6:13 am
(November 20, 2016 at 6:56 pm)goombah111 Wrote:
(November 14, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I bet you anything it's suspended in a dihydrogen monoxide solutiom, and you know I'm sure how many people die from that horrible shit.

what the hell is dihydrogen monoxide. in my 4 years in chemistry classes i never learned about that.

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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 21, 2016 at 6:38 am
Now vax denialism?

*yawn*

Easy to say when you've survived to adulthood due to your vaccines.

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RE: Vaccines both good and bad?
November 21, 2016 at 9:35 am
(November 20, 2016 at 6:58 pm)goombah111 Wrote:
(November 14, 2016 at 7:30 am)Jesster Wrote: Mercury is not in vaccines for the same reason that oxygen is not in water. Once it is chemically combined, it is not the same substance anymore. This has been the biggest misunderstanding that started the whole anti-vax movement.

The "mercury" used in some vaccines is actually "thiomersal". Mercury is a single element, while thiomersal is a more complex molecule. Here's a visual of thiomersal for you.

thimerosal is definitely toxic in relatively low doses.

So you're ok with vaccines without thiomersal?

And how do you know that it is "definitely toxic in relatively low doses" and what is relatively low?
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