Trump won the white working-man vote..

[Brian37]

Lol, "Sure, during the campaign he thought white supremacists made such good points over 75 times that he re-posted their material, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was running a racist campaign."

How's that kool-aid taste?

Hitler loved animals. I guess everyone who loves animals is a nazi.

Oh wait, no, that's not how it works is it?

Um no , that is not what we are pointing out. "Not all" is the wrong argument. It only take's just enough and our PE is filling his power with that "just enough"

The rise of Hitler did not start with most Germans calling for genocide, that came late in the war. He did however use scapegoating and demagoguery of other's an ran on economic populism

[Thumpalumpacus]

Does he actually like Trump though? Or is he simply sharing a different, benefit-of-the-doubt type perspective?

He's always plumped for him here on the forum, going back a year or so.

[Faith No More]

I know you weren't talking to me, but are you referring to the "alt-right" Twitter accounts that Trump retweeted? It is possible that he just retweeted them without checking the profiles.

Irrelevant. When you find yourself agreeing with white supremacists that much, you're pretty much racist, and when you use their words during a campaign that much, you're stoking racial hatred.

Besides, you do it once or twice, maybe it was an accident. Over 75 times? That's deliberate.

And it's especially hard to claim ignorance when the account you re-tweet is @WhiteGenocideTM.

[The Grand Nudger]

What could -I- say to establish that trumps campaign was racist if the things trump already said don't do that, for you?  

"You haven't proven that piece of paper is blue!"
"It's a leftist conspiracy to call it blue!"

We could do this all day Napo, but I'd rather not.

Racism is irrelevant , for that reason. I don't care for people's thoughts or feelings , only for their actions.

Racial apathy, the new antipathy.  Irrelevant indeed.  


Spouting off racist shit while running a racist presidential campaign.....or electing a person who does the same -are- actions. If the bigots kept their dicks in their pants no one would have reason for concern. Clearly, they're incapable.

[Catholic_Lady]

Does he actually like Trump though? Or is he simply sharing a different, benefit-of-the-doubt type perspective?

He's always plumped for him here on the forum, going back a year or so.

I remember him doing that, but I thought he was joking around or at least trying to make a point.

EDIT TO ADD: Sorry, don't mean to harp on this. Just trying to be fair to Nap.

[Faith No More]

Hitler loved animals. I guess everyone who loves animals is a nazi.

Oh wait, no, that's not how it works is it?

That's not even close to equivalent and a pretty sorry justification. Surely you can tell the difference between having a shared adoration for animals and agreeing with ideological statements.

But regardless, you should probably let all those people that felt comfortable enough to yell things like "Fuck those dirty beaners" and "Fuck that nigger" at his rallies that they were just confused.

[abaris]

Does he actually like Trump though? Or is he simply sharing a different, benefit-of-the-doubt type perspective?

Does it even matter? You heard Trump, you are aware of the KKK endorsment as well as David Duke's, you are aware of hm appointing Steve Bannon to be his chief strategist.

Where's the doubt to offer benefit?

[Catholic_Lady]

Does he actually like Trump though? Or is he simply sharing a different, benefit-of-the-doubt type perspective?

Does it even matter? You heard Trump, you are aware of the KKK endorsment as well as David Duke's, you are aware of hm appointing Steve Bannon to be his chief strategist.

Where's the doubt to offer benefit?

Well it matters if he's being accused of liking Trump when he actually doesn't. I just feel like everyone's been super on edge and throwing accusations when they are not warranted.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Uh, no. Nice stretch, though. Perhaps you should reread the post I referenced so you can understand my point ... because right now you clearly don't.

Or maybe you do understand my point and are pretending otherwise in an attempt to rile me, per your usual MO.

At any rate, we'll resume this conversation when your brain resumes useful operations.

Which post would that be? The one you replied to directly or the one in which you said you had charged bigotry? Hey, why don't you just fucking tell me what you mean, Princess, I won't read through hundreds of posts just to get at the bit you might want me to seek out. . . Only to then have you double down on your own inept remarks without even attempting to hold an honest conversation about them. 

If you're not smart enough to follow a conversation before jumping in, you can go look up the goddamned post yourself. I'm not going to hold your hand and babysit you through the thread.

How do you know if someone's a bigot, Thump? Do aknowledge the subjective fucking nature of your own opinion on the matter, please. 

I judge a person by their behavior. Of course my opinion is subjective -- that is, after all, the nature of opinion, Einstein -- but I call it like I see it based on the evidence of personal behavior.

I don't see that Bella said that. You're intentionally taking what she said and adding your own illegitimate spin on it. 

I don't understand your definition of adulthood or how it relates to this,but I think you need to develop some nuance. 

Oh dear ... EP doesn't approve. What am I to do?

That made whom a Nazi and why? 

Read what was written. It's right there; not that it's historical fact, but casting the analogy appropriately in causal terms.

Could you be more condescending ?

Yes. Why do you ask?

[abaris]

Well it matters if he's being accused of liking Trump when he actually doesn't. I just feel like everyone's been super on edge and throwing accusations when they are not warranted.

There's not much of a doubt in that department either. You probably missed out on all his comments. It was all in defence of Trump, his own brand of Trumps and white nationalism in general.

I'm always eager to offer the benefit of the doubt. But the only doubt left, going by his continued post record, is the choice between troll and Trump support.