Trump won the white working-man vote..

[vorlon13]

The "I can't be racist if I don't think it's racist" defense of racism.

More like you have yet to prove it was racist in the first place.

Not pulling as many votes as Romney would argue against the premise.

So too, doubling the # number of Black/Latino votes over Romney is hard to explain in that scenario. Particularly with an overall total less than Romney received.

And further eroding the idea, 10,00,000 Obama voters certainly weren't seduced by Trump, they were lost by Obama/Hillary themselves.  Folks in the David
Duke orbit have never had the ability demonstrated by Hillary herself, to pull, er, uh, push voters in that direction.

If the Dukers have an awards banquet, it would be damn hard for them to ignore the contributions Hillary made to their movement.

[vorlon13]

and if their isn't much enthusiasm for seeing such surreal posts like that, maybe there shouldn't be such surreal threads in the first place.

[vorlon13]

or fucking surreal presidential campaigns . . .


[grrrr]

[The Grand Nudger]

So too, doubling the # number of Black/Latino votes over Romney is hard to explain in that scenario. Particularly with an overall total less than Romney received.

It's not.  Blacks and latinos can be -incredibly- racist, just like whites.  To think otherwise, is to succumb to racists thoughts, lol.  

I know, I know, why would a cuban be racist in relation to mexicans........arent they the same?  Nope. Why? Gee, you'd have to ask a cuban, and VV for mexicans. They'll tell you all about it.

[vorlon13]

but racist agin' themselves ?

wut ?

[vorlon13]

oh wait . .


surrealistic thread again.

Yeah whatever . .

[Excited Penguin]

Which post would that be? The one you replied to directly or the one in which you said you had charged bigotry? Hey, why don't you just fucking tell me what you mean, Princess, I won't read through hundreds of posts just to get at the bit you might want me to seek out. . . Only to then have you double down on your own inept remarks without even attempting to hold an honest conversation about them. 

If you're not smart enough to follow a conversation before jumping in, you can go look up the goddamned post yourself. I'm not going to hold your hand and babysit you through the thread.

What does anything have to do with smarts? Can to even tell me what you're referring to or do you expect me to read this whole thread with an eye out for anything that you might have meant, with nothing to go on? Or, easier, can to simply stop postponing a discussion and tell me what you want me to read? You were responding to CL's post. I read that post. It wasn't apparently replying to anything in particular. You were responding to it alone. So yours is a false analogy from earlier. I'm seeking to discuss, and you're making it hard. If you're not interested in discussion , that's fine, but don't waste my time if all you're going to do is troll me. 

How do you know if someone's a bigot, Thump? Do aknowledge the subjective fucking nature of your own opinion on the matter, please. 

I judge a person by their behavior. Of course my opinion is subjective -- that is, after all, the nature of opinion, Einstein -- but I call it like I see it based on the evidence of personal behavior.

I was calling it subjective in order to emphasize that. 

I call it like I see it as well. What I see is you expressing your opinions in an obnoxious way. 

I don't see that Bella said that. You're intentionally taking what she said and adding your own illegitimate spin on it. 

I don't understand your definition of adulthood or how it relates to this,but I think you need to develop some nuance. 

Oh dear ... EP doesn't approve.  What am I to do?

So you're not going to accept those charges, but instead point out the obvious ? Might as well do the same . If you think this is a good use of our time,then by all means, let's keep this up. 

That made whom a Nazi and why? 

Read what was written. It's right there; not that it's historical fact, but casting the analogy appropriately in causal terms.

I did read what was written, did you think I hadn't when I replied to it ?

I don't understand what you're talking about and I'm asking for clarification. 

Could you be more condescending ?

Yes. Why do you ask? 

Because I don't think it's a good quality to have , especially not in a conversation.

[Faith No More]

but racist agin' themselves ?

wut ?

It's a surreal world.

[Brian37]

NO Trump DID NOT WIN, learn the difference between law and popular vote. Hillary got the popular vote. There is no mandate here. This was a fumble for dems not a win for asshole bigots. 

HEY FUCKFACE, Your friends at fucks news claim the Hamilton actor was race baiting. BUT the problem with that fuckface, is that LGBT is not a skin color. FUCK YOU.

Let me clue in dumbass, this demagoguery on the part of the right has been going on since Reagan, nice scam they have going. Reagan attached himself to the right and the rich and successfully painted the left as anti private sector, at first it was cold war garbage, but over time they pointed the demagoguery at minorities. 

This is all designed by the right to divide poor and middle class blacks and whites to get fuckfaces like you to ignore that the top does not give one fuck about your ability to pay your bills.

I am 50 years old. I am old enough to see and remember Reagan busting the collective bargaining power of unions. UNIONS, the entities that defended and built the middle class after WW2.

Now watch, this is what is going to happen. There will be a marginal worker pay increase, and Trump like Bush will send everyone a bribe rebate. But the wage increase and the bribe will only give the public a short term sense of security. Long term Trump, "The Democratic People's Republic of ASSHOLE BIGOTS" is simply setting us up for another economic bubble. That is very clear, or should be clear considering he is filling his cabinet with Bush's assholes. Is that what you want? Is that "draining the swamp"? 

Now if you think it is all in their heads, go talk to LGBT, shut your fucking mouth and listen. If you cannot do that, then you are nothing but another sucker Trump has conned.

Is there a condensed version of this without the vitriol?

Yes Trump started it so he should NOT bitch when people respond to it. If you cannot understand that or refuse to understand that,your are part of the problem.. I really don't need a lecture on "vitriol" TRUMP DOES. Pence as his pick is a literal threat both physically an in law to our LGBT friends alone an that he is now in power is immoral. He has put homophobes an bigots in power an implied harm to political rivals If you think Pence's being booed or lectured is as bad as the the laws he has passed in his home state you fail to see why they RIGHTFULLY confronted him Pence and Trump are the real vitriol

[vorlon13]

More surreal stuff:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit.../94013898/


Jesse Jackson calling upon Obama to blanket pardon Hillary, not that she did anything wrong . . . .


Um, people, please realize ACCEPTING a presidential pardon is an ADMISSION of guilt. Established law, no debate on the subject.  Jesse's fervent wishes to the contrary DO NOT MAKE IT SO.

And this twisting, shading, nuancing, bullshit is fucking bullshit.  Lets learn something from 11/8 and that's the voters are fucking sick and tired of the fucking bullshit.