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RE: Republicans... proudly marching into the 1950's
November 21, 2016 at 11:14 pm
(November 17, 2016 at 5:04 pm)Kosh Wrote: Their base is in a state of literal biological decay. I've looked at the demographics from this election. If only 18-29 yr olds had voted, Clinton would have won 538-0.
Extrapolate this 30-40 years down the line and republicans will be a fringe group searching for acceptance.
That depends... a lot of Americans will skew more and more conservative as they get older. It would not surprise me if a lot of the 40+ crowd that voted for Trump never dreamed of voting Republican when they were under 25.
However, a lot of the concerns that drive that shift (IMO) are economic. John Doe might be a radical lefty when the government is helping pay his way through college, but when he gets that first big paycheck and sees the list of deductions he suddenly becomes a fiscal hawk. On the other hand, I suspect that the progress being made in terms of social issues will continue. So the shift to the left will continue, but it will be much slower than current demographics would suggest.
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RE: Republicans... proudly marching into the 1950's
November 22, 2016 at 12:41 am
(November 21, 2016 at 11:14 pm)Tonus Wrote: (November 17, 2016 at 5:04 pm)Kosh Wrote: Their base is in a state of literal biological decay. I've looked at the demographics from this election. If only 18-29 yr olds had voted, Clinton would have won 538-0.
Extrapolate this 30-40 years down the line and republicans will be a fringe group searching for acceptance.
That depends... a lot of Americans will skew more and more conservative as they get older. It would not surprise me if a lot of the 40+ crowd that voted for Trump never dreamed of voting Republican when they were under 25.
However, a lot of the concerns that drive that shift (IMO) are economic. John Doe might be a radical lefty when the government is helping pay his way through college, but when he gets that first big paycheck and sees the list of deductions he suddenly becomes a fiscal hawk. On the other hand, I suspect that the progress being made in terms of social issues will continue. So the shift to the left will continue, but it will be much slower than current demographics would suggest.
Possibly.. But I'm not sure the brain works like that with most people. My wife and I had didn't have much when we first got married. She had just gone through six years of college and was desperately looking for a public school teaching job. I was working, but not making much. We had loans to deal with so we lived pretty damn meagerly, but we never got to the point of using government assistance. We both ended up going back to school again, and now we have good paying careers. The two of us pay upper 5 figured in taxes every year.
Paying taxes doesn't piss us off.. That is part of living in a society. It's dirtbags running around in personal jets and not paying taxes that piss us off. If anything that drives us more left.
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