(November 18, 2016 at 12:52 pm)Drich Wrote:

(November 18, 2016 at 11:41 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Bolded mine.  No...you really can't.

...Actually sport kinda do and can. Legally.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/inde.../0509.html

As a private enterprise I can refuse service to any A-hole I deem fit/unfit.

No You cannot deny service based on race or religion or gender but many people do lie and use other excuses as a loophole to be dicks

Oh and Drippy the "Supremacy Clause" in the federal constitution overrides state law

(November 18, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:

(November 18, 2016 at 1:40 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I will say I believe that the proposed legislation is not necessary. The government does not need to protect a religious belief(s) any more that any other belief. Or to protect the "persons" ability to apply/in force that belief to others.

True, but this law is not about protecting religious beliefs.  It's about protecting religious bigotry and persecution.

Actually its about enabling discrimination in the guise of religious liberty.  Don't you know jesus always said, "fuck them niggers!"

(November 18, 2016 at 11:52 am)Divinity Wrote: As my youngest daughter said:  The First Amendment Defense Act will spur, and essentially endorse homophobia.  The government should NOT do business with any group that discriminates.  They should absolutely take away tax exempt status from such groups, like the Salvation Army.  Fuck the Salvation Army.  Every time I see one of those fuckers ringing bells, I want to knock their lights out.

yeah, she sounds... 'tolerant.'

(November 18, 2016 at 3:06 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(November 18, 2016 at 11:10 am)Drich Wrote: By minority I assume you mean every other race besides black people right? Because wasn't it the government that enslaved and brought in S-SA? Wasn't it the government who tried to ship them all back to Africa and south America? wasn't it the government segregated the black community from every other group?

If you honestly frame the role government has had on black people in history it is a good thing that the government is backing off.

Just look at EVERYOTHER Minority group in this country. What groups have had so much governmental control over them and at the same time what other minority group has done so poorly than black people in America?

I can't speak for every Asian, but as a whole, they/we do not need any special dispensation and this country has been at war with an Asian country for more that 75 years. So if there were a truly hated people/enemy of America in the last century 3/4 of it was spent killing Asians and asians killing americans, What other group has america deployed nuclear weapons on? And yet 'most' asians accel in this country. The same is true for middle easterners and even to a lessor extent (as far as rage/hate is concern) Latinos.

IF Asians made it in America (After being stripped of land, homes and possessions, then held in concentration camps during WWII) unless the government restrict you there is no reason you can not make it here.

**Yet according to you, black people can't succeed unless they are propped up by the government? That's BS. One of two things is happening here. ALL Black people inferior (which I do not believe to be the case, as my business advisor/mentor and best friend/Doctor two of the smartest people I know are Black,) or it is the government intervention in their social structure (good or bad) that has kept this race from coming into it's own. The (Why should I do... When the gub-ment will do for me.) attitude that is killing a whole generation of people's self worth and determination.

get rid of that BS and give men GOOD Jobs, then like the asian americans put into camps, allow them the time to rebuild their culture and values.

Oh, yeah, comparing the plight of blacks and other minorities is totally valid.  It's not like blacks were the only minority to be declared 3/5 of a person in our constitution.

The Chinese immigration in from the west were not counted as people at all. The reason the blacks were counted was because of the sparsity of population in the southern states. Meaning it gave the southern states larger congressional representation. California at the time was not a state and no records of the incoming Chinese were even kept let alone counted as people.

Quote:  It's not like blacks were the majority of slaves.

 
The Chinese were made slaves AFTER The blacks were set free, and no one gave a shit.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Chinese_S...in_America

Quote:It's not like the Jim Crow laws targeted blacks specifically.

Here the president and congresses passed laws restricting immigration and movement of Chinese people with out the proper 'papers' which were few were issued if one was not a doctor or highly educated/critical in some way. Without these papers it was illegal for a Chinese person to move about freely without being subject to arrest.
https://history.state.gov/milestones/186...mmigration
again after the civil war.

Quote: It's not like the C.I.A. introduced crack into black neighborhoods to fund their South American adventures.  It's not like the poor black neighborhoods have extremely underfunded schools.

Schools?!?!? they got Schools?!?!? WFT? Chinese people still don't have public schools built for them in this country.

Quote:If only they could be more like those awesome Asians.

that is not possible. Not right now at least.

Quote:**Way to bastardize my point. I'm saying the government has to step in to force assholes such as yourself to treat them equally.

Hey, dumb ass I AM one of 'those' people who gets Special treatment. I have been offered oppertunities you haven't, I can get loans you can't, the gub-ment will even hold my tee tee while I make sissies if I want. That is not equal treatment it is special treatment!
Even after admitting to you all I could not read graduating high school I could still got an offer for a full ride to a community collage of my choice.

I didn't think it was right that I would be able to 'bump' a white kid who worked hard and earned what he got.

How is that equal? Being treated equally does not get measured by the end result, but the opportunities given. The result is on the individual.

(November 19, 2016 at 7:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(November 18, 2016 at 12:52 pm)Drich Wrote: ...Actually sport kinda do and can. Legally.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/inde.../0509.html

As a private enterprise I can refuse service to any A-hole I deem fit/unfit.

No You cannot deny service based on race or religion or gender but many people do lie and use other excuses as a loophole to be dicks

Read the statute. As a private enterprise I can deny services for any Asshole that comes though my doors. (despite what you think)

(November 19, 2016 at 7:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Oh and Drippy the "Supremacy Clause" in the federal constitution overrides state law

read the statute...

I chose my words carfully.

(November 21, 2016 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote: yeah, she sounds... 'tolerant.'

You fuckers really don't get the meaning of tolerance.  It's not fucking intolerant to not tolerate intolerance.  It's goddamn common sense.  Homophobes love to hide behind 'our beliefs'.  Of course you see how much that really fucking matters when it comes to other things in the bible, or how much it matters for Muslims.  Fuck off, and stop expecting tolerance when you're an intolerant piece of garbage.

(November 21, 2016 at 10:26 am)Drich Wrote: ]
Read the statute. As a private enterprise I can deny services for any Asshole that comes though my doors. (despite what you think)

There are distinct limits. Let's say you're cynical ass wants to keep the Blacks out so you always deny them because they're "assholes".

All a prosecutor has to do is prove that you're practicing invidious discrimination through de facto refusal of service disproportionately towards Black clientele. The "asshole" excuse falls apart on using a sentinel (a person) to test the waters.

(November 21, 2016 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote:

(November 18, 2016 at 11:52 am)Divinity Wrote: As my youngest daughter said:  The First Amendment Defense Act will spur, and essentially endorse homophobia.  The government should NOT do business with any group that discriminates.  They should absolutely take away tax exempt status from such groups, like the Salvation Army.  Fuck the Salvation Army.  Every time I see one of those fuckers ringing bells, I want to knock their lights out.

yeah, she sounds... 'tolerant.'

Anything that doesn't sound like a fucktard like you is okay in my book.