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Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 22, 2016 at 6:26 pm
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2016 at 11:17 pm by Cyberman.)
(November 22, 2016 at 5:44 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(November 22, 2016 at 5:29 pm)The Joker Wrote: I'd say Family. I as a creationist would agree to the point of the following. Great. Now we have a working definition. That would mean that, for example, dogs are the same 'kind' as coyotes, foxes and jackals; cats the same 'kind' as lions, tigers and leopards; horses the same 'kind' as zebras and donkeys; They are correct. and humans are the same 'kind' as gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees and bonobos. But this I see no connection, Humans are far above them all, we are in the image of God, While unique in their own way, both humans and animals can have such features as eyes, noses, legs, and arms that point to our common Creator. It is the unique creation of mankind in the image of God that distinguishes us from all other creatures. This still-common idea is not in the slightest a proof of evolution. It is simply an assumption by those who reject creation. So what about the classifications? Well, Creationists gave Humans their very own classification.
The rest of the animals may, but humans shall not interbreed with other animals for this would be a sin of Bestiality and damnation in Hell. (November 22, 2016 at 5:51 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(November 22, 2016 at 5:47 pm)The Joker Wrote: The Bible teaches a literal 6 day creation and because a day and kinds are not the same thing, Kinds are Gods classification of animals he created and I do not follow Secular modernist evolutionists. I look at everything from the biblical perspective. But I see it the other way around. Translation: "No, man MUST be right! It's(Bible) reality that's right!" Administrator Notice
Material plagiarised from https://answersingenesis.org/are-humans-...life-ob16/. If you're going to parrot Ken Ham, at least have the decency to cite the source. -Stimbo
What is the justification for agreeing with the taxonomic classification as long as it's convenient, then clutching the goddidit security blanket when reality starts tugging at it?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 22, 2016 at 6:43 pm
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2016 at 6:52 pm by The Joker.)
(November 22, 2016 at 6:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What is the justification for agreeing with the taxonomic classification as long as it's convenient, then clutching the goddidit security blanket when reality starts tugging at it? Well it is more rational to say God did it, than to say God didn't do it. How can a single natural process could have created the universe?(Wheras God is all powerfull). How does that natural process happens to exist eternally? (Wheras God is eternal and does not need a cause) How did it know? What keeps it processing naturally? Where did it get its matter from? How can an unmind create a mind?(Only a greater mind can create a lesser mind)How can unlife create life? only Life can create Life and that is the law of biogenesis. Dr. William B. Provine, Professor of Biological Sciences at Cornell University, said the following: Quote:Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear . . . . There are no gods, no purposes, no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end for me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning to life, and no free will for humans, either.
"God didn't do it" is not the atheist position. I'm sick of explaining this.
Everything else is an argument from ignorance and nothing whatsoever to do with evolution. As for your Provine quote, EvolutionWiki has this to say: Quote:This is William Provine's view. It is not a scientific view, and it is not an inevitable outcome of evolution. It is the metaphysical view of one person on this matter. Evolution does not mean there is no life after death; if there is an impact on traditional ideas of life after death, perhaps the most difficult would be the possibility of animals other than humans sharing in the afterlife. As for ethics and an ultimate meaning to life, they are not contradicted by the theory of evolution. And free will, again, is a metaphysical debate having nothing to do with evolution. Provine is entitled to his views, but it seems he has made evolution into something it is not. In other words, it's his personal opinion and not a scientific pronouncement. His credentials on this matter are irrelevant.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Joker, I know this is off topic, but why did you pick the name "Joker?"
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
Maybe it's his given name!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould (November 22, 2016 at 6:26 pm)The Joker Wrote:(November 22, 2016 at 5:51 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Translation: Haven't you learned yet that what you think is irrelevant; only what you can show to be true? Since the damnbible is 180° opposed to reality in every testable way, your worship of it is only going to lead you in the wrong direction every time. Throw the damn thing into a shredder, pick up a few textbooks by reputable scientists, and actually learn something.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
He's just trolling us I think. How people get pleasure out of pretending to be ignorant, I don't know.
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