Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔

[Cyberman]

Stop parroting Ken Ham. He's no authority on anything, except how to scam shitloads of money out of gullible idiots. He is a known liar and only indistinguishable from Kent Hovind by the beard. They are not experts, they are not scientists, they are not credible sources - they are evangelist preachers with an agenda to sell.

[The Joker]

Stop parroting Ken Ham. He's no authority on anything, except how to scam shitloads of money out of gullible idiots. He is a known liar and only indistinguishable from Kent Hovind by the beard. They are not experts, they are not scientists, they are not credible sources - they are evangelist preachers with an agenda to sell.

I believe he is a good guy, just as you trust the secular scientists.

He isn't the only person in the creationist side you know? We have people like Dr. Georgia Purdom, who is a Molecular Geneticist, Speaker, Author, Researcher.

[Cyberman]

Then stop relying on known liars. I'm not familiar with Dr Purdom or any of her work. Maybe present some?

Or, hey get this: maybe start presenting something of your own, instead of being a mouthpiece for the least credible and most manipulative evangelists on record.

[Cyberman]

And I don't trust the "secular scientists", at least not for their own sake. I trust their published work and, for the most part, only after I've been convinced by it.

Case in point: I wasn't convinced by the existence of dark matter/energy, or the Oort cloud. To me they seemed like convenient ad hoc assumptions to plug up leaks in our knowledge. I'm still not 100% swayed, but at least there's evidence to examine.

[The Joker]

Joker, you're allowed to post(exceptions to 30/30).... as long as it's relevant to the discussion.

Then stop relying on known liars. I'm not familiar with Dr Purdom or any of her work. Maybe present some?

Or, hey get this: maybe start presenting something of your own, instead of being a mouthpiece for the least credible and most manipulative evangelists on record.

Most of Dr Purdom's reviewed(Reviewed by other creationist scientists) articles are on answersingenesis Creation foundation ministry, so you will need to research on that and read their articles until you are convinced. Here are all the Creation Scientists at answers in Genesis, see list. Click Here and here is more fuller list of Creation Scientists .

Here are Dr Purdom's presentations, see for yourself, watch or read the articles.

[Edwardo Piet]

Joker, what is it that you think evolution is ?  You seem to enjoy railing against a parody of it, but what do you think evolution actually is?

Boru

Yup. Strawmen are fun to attack but gotta remember that these men are made of. That is: Straw.

[Amarok]

Stop parroting Ken Ham. He's no authority on anything, except how to scam shitloads of money out of gullible idiots. He is a known liar and only indistinguishable from Kent Hovind by the beard. They are not experts, they are not scientists, they are not credible sources - they are evangelist preachers with an agenda to sell.

I believe he is a good guy, just as you trust the secular scientists.

He isn't the only person in the creationist side you know? We have people like Dr. Georgia Purdom, who is a Molecular Geneticist, Speaker, Author, Researcher.

PH.D creationist  like dum come in three flavors 

Ether there evangelical moles who payed lip service to real science get there certificate so they could use it to peddle there religious BS

Or there sciencest who live in a paradox of all the evidence pointing in one direction while due to personal ideology they believe and even promote another 

Or and these incredibly rare some drop the pretense and just admit that even thou all the evidence points one way there personal beliefs trump the evidence 

Lastly there are no sides sides would imply creationism is legitimate it's not therefore there are no sides

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Joker, you're allowed to post(exceptions to 30/30).... as long as it's relevant to the discussion.

Then stop relying on known liars. I'm not familiar with Dr Purdom or any of her work. Maybe present some?

Or, hey get this: maybe start presenting something of your own, instead of being a mouthpiece for the least credible and most manipulative evangelists on record.

Most of Dr Purdom's reviewed(Reviewed by other creationist scientists) articles are on answersingenesis Creation foundation ministry, so you will need to research on that and read their articles until you are convinced. Here are all the Creation Scientists at answers in Genesis, see list. Click Here and here is more fuller list of Creation Scientists .

Here are Dr Purdom's presentations, see for yourself, watch or read the articles.

And this narrative is total crap there is no worldviews here or ways of looking at the world or any of that crap. There is the totally impartial methods of knowledge based SOLELY on evidence and reason.  And there is people who can't deal with that because it doesn't fit there dogma so they need to pretend that everyone else is just as irrational and ideologically motivated it's pure projection .

presuppositionalism  is one hell of a drug

[The Joker]

But you haven't watched the whole video yet, I posted those two videos and you responded within about 10 minutes.

Evolution is false as proven here, if you are willing to watch you will understand.

[Amarok]

Lastly no one follows a scientist if you are you have mistaken science for religion 

and yest ham is not a fool he's charlatan

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But you haven't watched the whole video yet, I posted those two videos and you responded within about 10 minutes.

Evolution is false as proven here, if you are willing to watch you will understand.

I don't need to all i had to do was skim 5 min of the video to know that this is the same tired old arguments and the same tired narrative every other two bit creationist scam artist has dose and will employ none of these video are anything new  there wrong woefully so

[Cyberman]

Most of Dr Purdom's reviewed(Reviewed by other creationist scientists) articles are on answersingenesis Creation foundation ministry

Creationists reviewing other creationists is nothing but a huge circlejerk. Show me something by these preachers that has been published in respectable scientific literature. They're not doing science, whatever degrees they may hold, because the things they are trying to push are designed specifically to be untestable. At most they pay lip service to the scientific method, but it's like mynah birds mimicking human speech - they know how it sounds but they have no clue what it means or how it works.

Please understand what's happening here. If we were talking about Star Trek, say how warp engines might work in the real world, it won't make a fart of difference how many popular articles, youtube videos or fan blogs I post; none of it is going to get us a functional warp drive. We would need to be scouring the work of actual physicists. Otherwise we're just fanwanking.