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My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
(December 5, 2016 at 1:45 pm)Macoleco Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: So keep out Arab Muslim and Christian refugees from Syria; but allow Kurds and ethnic Armenians from Syria in?

What are you talking about? I dont even know who Kurds and Armenians are.

Then you're too stupid to even have an opinion on this.

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#42
RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
(December 5, 2016 at 3:35 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: unless they're all Lesbians somehow . . .

[Image: syrian-refugees-hungary-2.jpg]

Why do anti immigrant advocates rely on snap shots rather then statics this is the same tactic white extinction nutters use post a school picture with no white people in it then declare see white people are going extinct

Second that's sexist as hell it seems to argue that because there men we should treat then differently or as less worthy of our compassion and no Isis uses woman too
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#43
RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
You might want.to tune up the ol' humor detector there, Orochi.

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#44
RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
My problem with it is this: what about all the other Arab countries? Why aren't they all helping to take their "brothers" in? I'm particularly thinking of Saudi fucking Arabia on this one. Without getting into a geography/sunni/shia discussion, why aren't particular countries taking in the members of their preferred faith?

Some are, but many are not.

I saw a video a while back that had an Arab woman excoriating Saudi Arabia over this. She pointed out that if there were 10 Americans in trouble, the United States would send a carrier group, but the Saudis see hundreds of thousands in trouble and can't be moved to do anything.

And I also think it's idiotic for Germany to have let so many in wholesale. The problems are going to reverberate throughout that nation well until after every person now living is dead.
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#45
RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
(December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: I know, every life important. Helping refugees is okay, too. But letting them enter your country is another thing.

First of all, let me be more objective from a political perspective: letting refugees in means putting your own people in danger. And we all know the many accidents that have occured in countries like Germany and Switzerland. If you as a government let refugees in and they hurt civilians, it is your responsability.

Now, to my personal point of view: religion. These refugees have strong religious beliefs, and if you let them in, their religion will start to spread. They will start building churches and mosques. And this, in the long run, will hurt society, the world, a lot more than letting some people die. Yes, even children. (Example of this: Londonistan, eh, I mena, London)

If I was the president of a country, I would send food, water, clothes, etc to help the refugees. But I would never let them in my country. I am the president of MY country, not of the world. What happens to Syria isnt my problem. 

What do you think?

It's ideas like this that make me believe homo sapiens will become extinct sooner rather than later.

I also don't understand why you're conflating refugees with religion.
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#46
RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
(December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: I know, every life important. Helping refugees is okay, too. But letting them enter your country is another thing.

First of all, let me be more objective from a political perspective: letting refugees in means putting your own people in danger. And we all know the many accidents that have occured in countries like Germany and Switzerland. If you as a government let refugees in and they hurt civilians, it is your responsability.

Now, to my personal point of view: religion. These refugees have strong religious beliefs, and if you let them in, their religion will start to spread. They will start building churches and mosques. And this, in the long run, will hurt society, the world, a lot more than letting some people die. Yes, even children. (Example of this: Londonistan, eh, I mena, London)

If I was the president of a country, I would send food, water, clothes, etc to help the refugees. But I would never let them in my country. I am the president of MY country, not of the world. What happens to Syria isnt my problem. 

What do you think?

I think refugees are ok in certain numbers since they're children will be able to assimilate into western culture somewhere down the line.

I think the Syrians in my area are probably a bit shocked since they're basically moving into Pakistani culture around here which is probably more Islamic than where they came from.

I work with a Syrian who told me in plain speaking that he doesn't like all the black and pakistani people he has to live around when he came to this country because of their bad manners but he get's along with white people ok.  
I don't know if they're less politically correct over there or what but he told me it  as casually as you would talk about the weather.

I don't know enough about Syrians or their culture even though I was going out with  a Syrian woman at one point and she showed me loads of books about the place and pictures of her family.
I think it depends on the culture a person is coming from as to how well they will get on over here.  They need to be used to seeing women not covered from head to to and not in the company of a man and understand that homosexality and lesbianism is perfectly good and fine.

(December 5, 2016 at 8:37 pm)Orochi Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 3:35 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: unless they're all Lesbians somehow . . .

[Image: syrian-refugees-hungary-2.jpg]

Why do anti immigrant advocates rely on snap shots rather then statics this is the same tactic white extinction nutters use post a school picture with no white people in it then declare see white people are going extinct

Second that's sexist as hell it seems to argue that because there men we should treat then differently or as less worthy of our compassion and no Isis uses woman too

Men do act differently from women so it would be ignorance to not treat them differently.

Men are more violent, more of a risk when violent, commit more violent crime and so on.  More sex crime especially, for both psychological and biological reasons.


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#47
RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
(December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: I know, every life important. Helping refugees is okay, too. But letting them enter your country is another thing.

First of all, let me be more objective from a political perspective: letting refugees in means putting your own people in danger. And we all know the many accidents that have occured in countries like Germany and Switzerland. If you as a government let refugees in and they hurt civilians, it is your responsability.

Now, to my personal point of view: religion. These refugees have strong religious beliefs, and if you let them in, their religion will start to spread. They will start building churches and mosques. And this, in the long run, will hurt society, the world, a lot more than letting some people die. Yes, even children. (Example of this: Londonistan, eh, I mena, London)

If I was the president of a country, I would send food, water, clothes, etc to help the refugees. But I would never let them in my country. I am the president of MY country, not of the world. What happens to Syria isnt my problem. 

What do you think?

Let's start here...what country are you from?
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
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#48
RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
(December 5, 2016 at 11:43 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: I know, every life important. Helping refugees is okay, too. But letting them enter your country is another thing.

First of all, let me be more objective from a political perspective: letting refugees in means putting your own people in danger. And we all know the many accidents that have occured in countries like Germany and Switzerland. If you as a government let refugees in and they hurt civilians, it is your responsability.

Now, to my personal point of view: religion. These refugees have strong religious beliefs, and if you let them in, their religion will start to spread. They will start building churches and mosques. And this, in the long run, will hurt society, the world, a lot more than letting some people die. Yes, even children. (Example of this: Londonistan, eh, I mena, London)

If I was the president of a country, I would send food, water, clothes, etc to help the refugees. But I would never let them in my country. I am the president of MY country, not of the world. What happens to Syria isnt my problem. 

What do you think?

Let's start here...what country are you from?

Why is it important? I am from Costa Rica.
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#49
RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
It's important because if you suddenly find that you have to leave your own country, because of war, how would you feel if no other country wanted you or your family because you were refugees? How would you feel if people judged you before they ever got to know you?
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
(December 5, 2016 at 10:23 pm)paulpablo Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: I know, every life important. Helping refugees is okay, too. But letting them enter your country is another thing.

First of all, let me be more objective from a political perspective: letting refugees in means putting your own people in danger. And we all know the many accidents that have occured in countries like Germany and Switzerland. If you as a government let refugees in and they hurt civilians, it is your responsability.

Now, to my personal point of view: religion. These refugees have strong religious beliefs, and if you let them in, their religion will start to spread. They will start building churches and mosques. And this, in the long run, will hurt society, the world, a lot more than letting some people die. Yes, even children. (Example of this: Londonistan, eh, I mena, London)

If I was the president of a country, I would send food, water, clothes, etc to help the refugees. But I would never let them in my country. I am the president of MY country, not of the world. What happens to Syria isnt my problem. 

What do you think?

I think refugees are ok in certain numbers since they're children will be able to assimilate into western culture somewhere down the line.

I think the Syrians in my area are probably a bit shocked since they're basically moving into Pakistani culture around here which is probably more Islamic than where they came from.

I work with a Syrian who told me in plain speaking that he doesn't like all the black and pakistani people he has to live around when he came to this country because of their bad manners but he get's along with white people ok.  
I don't know if they're less politically correct over there or what but he told me it  as casually as you would talk about the weather.

I don't know enough about Syrians or their culture even though I was going out with  a Syrian woman at one point and she showed me loads of books about the place and pictures of her family.
I think it depends on the culture a person is coming from as to how well they will get on over here.  They need to be used to seeing women not covered from head to to and not in the company of a man and understand that homosexality and lesbianism is perfectly good and fine.

(December 5, 2016 at 8:37 pm)Orochi Wrote: Why do anti immigrant advocates rely on snap shots rather then statics this is the same tactic white extinction nutters use post a school picture with no white people in it then declare see white people are going extinct

Second that's sexist as hell it seems to argue that because there men we should treat then differently or as less worthy of our compassion and no Isis uses woman too

Men do act differently from women so it would be ignorance to not treat them differently.

Men are more violent, more of a risk when violent, commit more violent crime and so on.  More sex crime especially, for both psychological and biological reasons.

My point is they just as worthy of our compassion as woman and children and using the fact that even if the majority were men (which they are not) it's dubious to use it as anti immigration rhetoric
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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