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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 18, 2016 at 2:10 pm
(December 18, 2016 at 1:58 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: He's also a dumbshit because he went through 8+ years of college and never heard of or didn't remember the Goldwater rule [...]
As pointed out upthread, the guy offering the diagnosis is not a psychiatrist, but a therapist.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 18, 2016 at 2:23 pm
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(December 18, 2016 at 2:10 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (December 18, 2016 at 1:58 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: He's also a dumbshit because he went through 8+ years of college and never heard of or didn't remember the Goldwater rule [...]
As pointed out upthread, the guy offering the diagnosis is not a psychiatrist, but a therapist.
Ah, well it might mean that he's not subject to the Goldwater rule (although I'm not sure, they might still have to abide by APA ethical guidelines.), but he's even less qualified to make a diagnosis without talking to a patient then a fully trained psychologist. I think that rule is a good one. There are psychiatrists, psychologists and therapists of every political and religious bent. You can get someone to say that any politician is mentally unfit, so I put no stock in any diagnosis made in lieu of examination and questioning.
Edit: I googled the author of that article, he's not even a real therapist, he's a hypnotherapist from New Jersey. So you can pretty much wipe your ass with his diagnosis.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 18, 2016 at 4:43 pm
Yeah, I wouldn't take any Internet diagnosis serious myself. But I do of course have my own opinion.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 19, 2016 at 10:11 pm
(December 18, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Yeah, I wouldn't take any Internet diagnosis serious myself. But I do of course have my own opinion.
Right but all I'm qualified to say is that I wouldn't be surprised if he had a disorder, which is all the hypnotherapist who wrote that article is qualified to say either. Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day Atheists start quoting someone who runs a hypnotherapy office as though it was stone cold truth.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 19, 2016 at 10:32 pm
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(December 19, 2016 at 10:11 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (December 18, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Yeah, I wouldn't take any Internet diagnosis serious myself. But I do of course have my own opinion.
Right but all I'm qualified to say is that I wouldn't be surprised if he had a disorder, which is all the hypnotherapist who wrote that article is qualified to say either. Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day Atheists start quoting someone who runs a hypnotherapy office as though it was stone cold truth.
Except no one did that.
His behavior is odd, even outrageous, and that is clear and obvious to anyone.
It is also clear that it is a close match to the description of narcissistic personality disorder or malignant narcissism.
To deny that is to deny reality.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 19, 2016 at 10:38 pm
(December 19, 2016 at 10:32 pm)Chas Wrote: (December 19, 2016 at 10:11 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Right but all I'm qualified to say is that I wouldn't be surprised if he had a disorder, which is all the hypnotherapist who wrote that article is qualified to say either. Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day Atheists start quoting someone who runs a hypnotherapy office as though it was stone cold truth.
Except no one did that.
His behavior is odd, even outrageous, and that is clear and obvious to anyone.
It is also clear that it is a close match to the description of narcissistic personality disorder or malignant narcissism.
To deny that is to deny reality.
The vast vast vast vast majority of people have no qualifications to diagnose such a thing at all.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 20, 2016 at 1:37 am
(December 19, 2016 at 10:11 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (December 18, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Yeah, I wouldn't take any Internet diagnosis serious myself. But I do of course have my own opinion.
Right but all I'm qualified to say is that I wouldn't be surprised if he had a disorder, which is all the hypnotherapist who wrote that article is qualified to say either. Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day Atheists start quoting someone who runs a hypnotherapy office as though it was stone cold truth.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 21, 2016 at 6:42 pm
Sometimes you don't need a doctor to diagnose a bleeding wound. The gushing blood kinda speaks for itself.
It's plain to see for anyone that everything isn't as it should be inside the mind of the Drumpf. At least for anyone who reads his tweets, which might as well be composed by a hormonal 13 year old. That is not normal for a grown man. He actually reminds me a lot of my patients, who are hospitalized drug addicts in rehab.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 21, 2016 at 9:30 pm
(December 21, 2016 at 6:42 pm)Thal Wrote: Sometimes you don't need a doctor to diagnose a bleeding wound. The gushing blood kinda speaks for itself.
It's plain to see for anyone that everything isn't as it should be inside the mind of the Drumpf. At least for anyone who reads his tweets, which might as well be composed by a hormonal 13 year old. That is not normal for a grown man. He actually reminds me a lot of my patients, who are hospitalized drug addicts in rehab.
I mean, officially, amateur diagnosis can be extremely problematic in many cases, but, that said, we've got the diagnostic criteria for Anti-Social Personality Disorder (and most, if not all, of the disorders in the DSMs, both IV and V), and we've got Trump smearing his shit all over Twitter, laying his penchant for bullshitting American society all over the news nonstop for a year and a half (with at least four more years to come), and with all this in mind, it's astonishingly easy to make the case that Trump's behaviour fits the diagnostic criteria for ASPD.
Hell, earlier in this thread, I managed to make a pretty good case that he fits all seven of the criteria (and given that A: it can be difficult to tell the sociopaths from the potential role models, and B: You only need to fit three criteria, that's quite the accomplishment).
That said, even on the off-chance that he submits to a therapist's diagnosis, it's not like they can actually do anything about it. Not only are there no approved treatments, but it's so easy for a sociopath to bullshit his way into convincing people (even some therapists) he's normal it can be difficult to tell the difference.
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RE: News Flash: Psychiatrict Diagnoses Trump as a "Charismatic Psychopath"
December 25, 2016 at 12:44 pm
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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/what-a-t...d-trump-2/
Quote:What a top FBI profiler taught me about extreme narcissists like Donald Trump
I guess he didn't get the word that the FBI was rooting for Drumpf?
Equally interesting. Some people are very observant.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/these-7-...kin-crawl/
Quote:These 7 weird and disturbing facts about Donald Trump’s personality will make your skin crawl
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