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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 12:07 pm
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(December 25, 2016 at 10:56 am)Tiberius Wrote: @pool the great:
I would agree with some of the assessments you've made there. I think others are based on hearsay and not statements she's made publicly.
However, this isn't about Clinton. She lost. She is irrelevant now. This is about the person who won. Trump and his supporters can't just keep shifting the focus to Clinton when criticism of Trump comes up, because he's the President elect now. His actions are the only ones that matter.
I should also point out that you can say racist and sexist things without being a racist or a sexist, though I think if you say those things and you aren't joking around, you probably harbor some racist / sexist thoughts.
Trump has said these things. They are on record. We're not along you to defend them, we're asking you to recognize them and how they come across to people. Will you do that at least?
Well then you completely missed my point.
We live in a world where feminists speak about putting men in concentration camps, speaks about how man-hating is honorable, top women's rights activists like Hillary Clinton publicly laughs at rape victims and harass rape victims, people against racism addresses white people as "you fucking white male" and professes "White privilege",there are absolutely no shelters for men, men get arrested for getting physically assaulted by a woman, men pay the women rapist for getting raped, male rape victims get laughed at, where it's socially acceptable to see men's lives as disposable, ideas like "White privilege" float around freely
...these people are not criticized, these people are not chastised for uttering such vile crap out their mouths, no... In fact these people are seen as heroes..the women that broke the glass ceiling, the heroes that fight the patriarchy, the anti racist heroes, the social justice warriors, the list goes on.
......and you want me to acknowledge Trump as a woman hater for bragging about his sex life?
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 12:25 pm
Russki military choir crashed in the Black Sea. Looks like Drumpf will have to scratch them from the list, too.
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 1:14 pm
(December 25, 2016 at 12:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Russki military choir crashed in the Black Sea. Looks like Drumpf will have to scratch them from the list, too.
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 3:25 pm
(December 25, 2016 at 1:14 pm)Orochi Wrote: (December 25, 2016 at 12:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Russki military choir crashed in the Black Sea. Looks like Drumpf will have to scratch them from the list, too.
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Very sad.
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 3:30 pm
(December 25, 2016 at 12:07 pm)pool the great Wrote: (December 25, 2016 at 10:56 am)Tiberius Wrote: @pool the great:
I would agree with some of the assessments you've made there. I think others are based on hearsay and not statements she's made publicly.
However, this isn't about Clinton. She lost. She is irrelevant now. This is about the person who won. Trump and his supporters can't just keep shifting the focus to Clinton when criticism of Trump comes up, because he's the President elect now. His actions are the only ones that matter.
I should also point out that you can say racist and sexist things without being a racist or a sexist, though I think if you say those things and you aren't joking around, you probably harbor some racist / sexist thoughts.
Trump has said these things. They are on record. We're not along you to defend them, we're asking you to recognize them and how they come across to people. Will you do that at least?
Well then you completely missed my point.
We live in a world where feminists speak about putting men in concentration camps, speaks about how man-hating is honorable, top women's rights activists like Hillary Clinton publicly laughs at rape victims and harass rape victims, people against racism addresses white people as "you fucking white male" and professes "White privilege",there are absolutely no shelters for men, men get arrested for getting physically assaulted by a woman, men pay the women rapist for getting raped, male rape victims get laughed at, where it's socially acceptable to see men's lives as disposable, ideas like "White privilege" float around freely
...these people are not criticized, these people are not chastised for uttering such vile crap out their mouths, no... In fact these people are seen as heroes..the women that broke the glass ceiling, the heroes that fight the patriarchy, the anti racist heroes, the social justice warriors, the list goes on.
......and you want me to acknowledge Trump as a woman hater for bragging about his sex life?
Why can't we do both? Both are wrong.
SJW feminists who are anti-male are in the wrong. The president elect who bragged about being able to sexually assault women (nothing to do with his sex life by the way) is in the wrong.
You can point out both at the same time, and you should.
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 4:34 pm
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(December 25, 2016 at 1:14 pm)Orochi Wrote: (December 25, 2016 at 12:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Russki military choir crashed in the Black Sea. Looks like Drumpf will have to scratch them from the list, too.
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I won't shed any tears for an Authoritarian state that has visibly struck back over Cold War arguments.
For now, the only good Russian is a dead Russian.
And before your foolish ideology of Leftism intervenes, have you considered the Ukrainians and the Syrians? They're all unwilling participants in the Russians weapon tests to market their goods.
Fuck Russia.
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 4:44 pm
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(December 25, 2016 at 3:58 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The fact is that politically speaking, America is suffering through a period of evacuated middle-ground; there's a no-man's land between the extremes on each end of the spectrum
There's only one extreme in US politics at the moment, the far-right. The Republicans are currently a far-right party operating at a level not to far off the Nazi party c. 1936 (aside from the anti-semitism). The Democrats are, in modern terms, a centre-right party, but given the centre has been dragged to the far right over the last thirty years, in proper terms they are hard-right. Yes, you've got sections of the Democrat party which could properly be termed social democrat, but social democracy was never, nor can never be legitimately, termed a hard left grouping. The enviornmentalist and shoppers rights Green party, and the ideologically incoherent Libertarians are too small to matter, even at a localised level.
So at the moment in US politics you've got the far right opposed by the hard right. And, frankly that is virtually no choice at all.
(December 25, 2016 at 5:24 am)pool the great Wrote: <snipping pools blatant and libellous lies>
Either you're stupider than all get out or you're a far-right conspiracy theorist? I'd like to know because then I'd know on what grounds it is correct to ignore your constant and blatant lies.
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 4:48 pm
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(December 25, 2016 at 4:34 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: (December 25, 2016 at 1:14 pm)Orochi Wrote: mim that's cold plus 80+ people also died
I won't shed any tears for an Authoritarian state that has visibly struck back over Cold War arguments.
For now, the only good Russian is a dead Russian.
And before your foolish ideology of Leftism intervenes, have you considered the Ukrainians and the Syrians? They're all unwilling participants in the Russians weapon tests to market their goods.
Fuck Russia.
Absolutely. Fuck Russia.
But I won't celebrate the death of anyone. Especially people who aren't involved in the conflict.
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 4:54 pm
(December 25, 2016 at 4:34 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: I won't shed any tears for an Authoritarian state that has visibly struck back over Cold War arguments.
For now, the only good Russian is a dead Russian.
And before your foolish ideology of Leftism intervenes, have you considered the Ukrainians and the Syrians? They're all unwilling participants in the Russians weapon tests to market their goods.
Fuck Russia.
My foolish leftism, otherwise known as human decency, barfs over the above statement.
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RE: Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.
December 25, 2016 at 5:05 pm
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And yet Atheists laugh at the extreme of the deathbed forgiveness of a Christian murderer entering heaven all while extending their "condolences" the far worse.
Did you mourn with the Castros as well? If so, then you're at least consistent. If not, then you're a special pleading hypocrite with a spine of jello.
Same vector of hypocrites on the Left that sold us all out to Trump and Putin.
But hey, if we all give Trump a chance I'm sure he'll shape up!
See that? Replace Trump with the GOP and roll the clock back to the first half of Obama's presidency and that was exactly the fevered Left's hope. "Bipartisanship".
Got run over then and you'll get run over now. Have fun being a bloody smear - I'd rather recognize the enemy for what they are.
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