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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 3:53 pm
(January 6, 2017 at 12:41 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (January 6, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Godschild Wrote: God speaks to those who show sincere interest in hearing him. God speaks to people in a quite and still voice, meaning you have to be spiritually sound if you expect to hear an answer. Like Drich said most answers come while sincerely reading the Bible, though I have heard his voice communicating with my spirit and for me it sounded as an audible voice.
GC Have you heard of your inner/internal monologue. The voice in your head is literally yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_monologue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
Did I say they were in my head, no, I said my spirit, that part of man that God created so we could know Him.
dbp Wrote:Individuals with schizophrenia may experience hallucinations (most reported are hearing voices), delusions (often bizarre or persecutory in nature), and disorganized thinking and speech
My wife and I care for a beautiful young lady, you could say we've adopted her and that means the problems she has also. When she was born, very premature, she weighed 3lbs. and very mentally challenged, at the age of 30 she she developed schizophrenia, can you even imagine what her 5 year old mind was going through. Then she was institutionalized 400 miles away from home and anyone she knew, now what do you think her mind was going through. Well I can tell you it was about as awful as things could get, we've been dealing with this for three years now and she is doing so much better. People who knew her before she came to us say, they can't believe she's the same girl they knew. So yes I know all about schizophrenia and the effect it has on people. Now you can take your diagnosis and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. I'm completely sane and a fairly smart person and know and understand my experiences. In actuality I feel sorry for you because you've never experienced anything from the Creator of the universe.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 4:01 pm
You did a marvelous thing, G-C.
God didn't do shit.
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 5:35 pm
(January 6, 2017 at 11:40 am)vorlon13 Wrote: God would never speak directly to anyone outside of his One True Religion.
Everyone else is channeling SATAN.
OK, we're getting somewhere Vorls..
Vorls, you're a technical person, let's brainstorm the mechanics/logistics of this.
God has every right to call it "his" one true religion.
But does that cover just earth, the whole known universe, and every other potential multierse/dimension.
Does he sublet time/space to other Gods who may have their own one true religion?
Or must they follow his rules under some sort of licensing contract?
The fact that you mentioned one true religion indicates that there could be false ones out there.
You know, if there really are thousands of gods out there, all with their one true religion, then maybe all the theists are correct!
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 5:48 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2017 at 5:51 pm by Simon Moon.)
(January 6, 2017 at 3:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: Did I say they were in my head, no, I said my spirit, that part of man that God created so we could know Him.
How would I go about enabling this part of me (I suppose all humans are born with it, right?) to experience this communication with this god? Is it at all possible that some do not have it?
Quote:My wife and I care for a beautiful young lady, you could say we've adopted her and that means the problems she has also. When she was born, very premature, she weighed 3lbs. and very mentally challenged, at the age of 30 she she developed schizophrenia, can you even imagine what her 5 year old mind was going through. Then she was institutionalized 400 miles away from home and anyone she knew, now what do you think her mind was going through. Well I can tell you it was about as awful as things could get, we've been dealing with this for three years now and she is doing so much better. People who knew her before she came to us say, they can't believe she's the same girl they knew. So yes I know all about schizophrenia and the effect it has on people. Now you can take your diagnosis and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine.
A wonderful act.
Quote:I'm completely sane and a fairly smart person and know and understand my experiences. In actuality I feel sorry for you because you've never experienced anything from the Creator of the universe.
Does everyone that claims to have experienced something from the creator, actually have experienced something from the creator? Or are there some percentage of those who claim they have experienced something from the creator, who have not? Like they may misinterpret some other natural brain state, have a transient hallucinatory state not related to a diagnosable mental illness, or actually have a mental illness that causes them to believe they experienced something from the creator, for example.
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You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm
(January 6, 2017 at 5:35 pm)ignoramus Wrote: (January 6, 2017 at 11:40 am)vorlon13 Wrote: God would never speak directly to anyone outside of his One True Religion.
Everyone else is channeling SATAN.
OK, we're getting somewhere Vorls..
Vorls, you're a technical person, let's brainstorm the mechanics/logistics of this.
God has every right to call it "his" one true religion.
But does that cover just earth, the whole known universe, and every other potential multierse/dimension.
Does he sublet time/space to other Gods who may have their own one true religion?
Or must they follow his rules under some sort of licensing contract?
The fact that you mentioned one true religion indicates that there could be false ones out there.
You know, if there really are thousands of gods out there, all with their one true religion, then maybe all the theists are correct!
Help me obi wan!
Even if there ever had been an era with more than one deity, there would be enormous selection pressure for the eventual triumph of one over all the rest.
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 7:10 pm
I hear Robvalue's voice in my head all of the time.
Is there something wrong with me?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 7:46 pm
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(January 6, 2017 at 3:17 pm)Drich Wrote: (January 6, 2017 at 2:51 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: accurate?
are Mormon inner voices always accurate ?
how about 7th Day Adventists?
Catholics?
Ultra Orthodox Jews ?
Trinity Baptist Tabernacle of Bismarck North Dakota ??
Somebody has to be getting poop from SATAN, please inform how to tell who.
again content and context.
If the inner voice can not stand up to even just basic biblical scrutiny then no they are not accurate dispite what they say. How ever if you are given 'revelation' and after much scrutiny you can verify the message then the 'voice' can be trusted so long as it stays with in the biblical frame work.
So change your word 'biblical' (bolded in quotes) with 'Book of Mormon' both instances.
Now, bear with us here for a minute, pretend you're a Mormon, and tell me why the statement is now incorrect, and how I, as neither Mormon nor Bible Christian, can discern the salvational difference between your post with the word biblical from your post with the words Book of Mormon.
And then remember to 'turn off' Mormon mode when you're done, we don't you running around inadvertently fronting for Joe Smith. [shudder]
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 7:48 pm
(January 6, 2017 at 4:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You did a marvelous thing, G-C.
God didn't do shit.
Exactly. If I should suddenly start praying I'll be sure to address them to G-C, not his god.
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 7:55 pm
Why bother Mark?
Does GC offer an afterlife?
Pray to Kevin instead.
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RE: Theists who speak with God
January 6, 2017 at 7:56 pm
(January 6, 2017 at 7:55 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Why bother Mark?
Does GC offer an afterlife?
Pray to Kevin instead.
He can give you infinite lives (via backup restores), and full virus protection!
Sorry GC, gotta go with the better offer. I've just gone to a better place in a sense.
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