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★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 10, 2017 at 2:28 pm
The OP is nonsense. That the universe is inherently filled with uncertainty does not make it impossible for people to believe otherwise.
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 10, 2017 at 9:26 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2017 at 9:45 pm by ProgrammingGodJordan.)
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 10, 2017 at 9:57 pm
(January 10, 2017 at 9:26 pm)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: It appears you have failed to reduce the initial passage.

International belief definition:

To accept as TRUE/ABSOLUTE.

Simply, we aren't omniscient of any event, thusly we can't regard any event as TRUE/TOTAL/ABSOLUTE.

That is not the definition used by most philosophers or cognitive scientists.

The Stanford Encyclopedia (considered one of the best) defines it thus:

"Contemporary analytic philosophers of mind generally use the term “belief” to refer to the attitude we have, roughly, whenever we take something to be the case or regard it as true."

"Most contemporary philosophers characterize belief as a “propositional attitude”.

There is nothing about the need to be absolute about beliefs.

Belief is simply the psychological state in which one accepts a premise or proposition to be true.

I believe the proposition that my girlfriend loves me, but I do not believe with absolute certainty.

I believe that evolution is true, but my beliefs are provisional and not absolute, based on evidence.

As David Hume said: "A Wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."

In other words, it is possible to have beliefs held at various degrees of certainty.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 10, 2017 at 10:09 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2017 at 10:24 pm by ProgrammingGodJordan.)
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 10, 2017 at 10:35 pm

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 10, 2017 at 10:48 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2017 at 10:49 pm by ProgrammingGodJordan.)
(January 10, 2017 at 10:35 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I see the word 'true' and 'truth' in the various definitions, but none of them state anything about having ABSOLUTE certainty.

I have plenty of beliefs. None of them I believe with ABSOLUTE certainty.

All of them are open to become disbeliefs, if shown evidence to do so.
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 10, 2017 at 11:09 pm
Someone has far too much time on his hands, apparently.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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January 10, 2017 at 11:20 pm
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 11, 2017 at 6:36 am
Sum ergo sum
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RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 11, 2017 at 12:31 pm
(January 10, 2017 at 9:26 pm)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: @Asmodee

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(January 10, 2017 at 2:28 pm)Asmodee Wrote: The OP is nonsense.  That the universe is inherently filled with uncertainty does not make it impossible for people to believe otherwise.

It appears you have failed to reduce the initial passage.

International belief definition:

To accept as TRUE/ABSOLUTE.

Simply, we aren't omniscient of any event, thusly we can't regard any event as TRUE/TOTAL/ABSOLUTE.
What I was saying is quite simple.  I CAN regard any event as true, total or absolute.  I just might not be right.
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