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What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 11, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Intelligent design is said to be a theory which challenges the Theory of Evolution in regards to explaining how the variety of life came to exist.
It basically says that because ToE cannot explain X, but Intelligent design can, then it must have been the work of an intelligent designer: God.
There is only one little problem: Intelligent Design isn't grappling with the same issues as ToE.
Here is the test: Ask someone who believes in Intelligent Design *how* God created everything.
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 12:14 am
Quote:Intelligent design is said to be a theory which challenges the Theory of Evolution in regards to explaining how the variety of life came to exist.
That is indeed the claim by apologists,but it ain't. Intelligent design is a religious doctrine ,unsupported by evidence. Is based on an old and soundly refuted argument for the existence God.Viz teleological ,or argument from design
Evolution is an established scientific theory supported by evidence. There is not now nor has there ever been any controversy or debate,except within the minds of members the lunatic fringe of theists.
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Quote:A teleological argument, or argument from design[1][2][3], is an argument for the existence of God or a creator based on perceived evidence of order, purpose, design, or direction — or some combination of these — in nature. The word "teleological" is derived from the Greek word telos, meaning "end" or "purpose". Teleology is the supposition that there is purpose or directive principle in the works and processes of nature. Immanuel Kant called this argument the Physico–theological proof[4].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleologica...ic_concept
see the sections: "Complexity does not prove design" and "does not prove the existence of God"
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 2:42 am
If the universe is the product of an "intelligent" designer then he's a buffoon.
I wouldn't let him design a wheelbarrow, never mind a universe.
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 6:36 am
(September 12, 2010 at 12:14 am)padraic Wrote: Quote:Intelligent design is said to be a theory which challenges the Theory of Evolution in regards to explaining how the variety of life came to exist.
That is indeed the claim by apologists,but it ain't. Intelligent design is a religious doctrine ,unsupported by evidence. Is based on an old and soundly refuted argument for the existence God.Viz teleological ,or argument from design
Evolution is an established scientific theory supported by evidence. There is not now nor has there ever been any controversy or debate,except within the minds of members the lunatic fringe of theists.
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Quote:A teleological argument, or argument from design[1][2][3], is an argument for the existence of God or a creator based on perceived evidence of order, purpose, design, or direction — or some combination of these — in nature. The word "teleological" is derived from the Greek word telos, meaning "end" or "purpose". Teleology is the supposition that there is purpose or directive principle in the works and processes of nature. Immanuel Kant called this argument the Physico–theological proof[4].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleologica...ic_concept
see the sections: "Complexity does not prove design" and "does not prove the existence of God" Agree totally. There is also one other thing that puzzles me about ID. If true where does it lead?
One of the great things about scienctific theoeis is their power to predict based on known inputs. And this isn't just academic but has real practical application. Evolutionary theory is used in managing farming practices to enhance resistance or prevent too high a genetic load on a species by trying to force enhanced breeds, predict length of transitions, predict pouplation growths etc. If ID were true what would you do with this information, pray to aliens or gods for crops to become more resistant?
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 7:33 am
(September 12, 2010 at 6:36 am)Captain Scarlet Wrote: Agree totally. There is also one other thing that puzzles me about ID. If true where does it lead?
One of the great things about scienctific theoeis is their power to predict based on known inputs. And this isn't just academic but has real practical application. Evolutionary theory is used in managing farming practices to enhance resistance or prevent too high a genetic load on a species by trying to force enhanced breeds, predict length of transitions, predict pouplation growths etc. If ID were true what would you do with this information, pray to aliens or gods for crops to become more resistant?
This is why the terms "creation science" and creation scientist" are such oxymorons
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 7:49 am
Maybe theres a little 'god pilot' driving the successfull sperm towards the egg.
Although sometimes he has crashes on the way, (explains birth defects).
Yep makes perfect sense.
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 7:51 am
I think abiogenesis has it covered.
Thanks for trying to contribute, but you should go and get some degrees in biology at least before coming up with any more ideas.
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 7:57 am
(September 12, 2010 at 7:49 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Maybe theres a little 'god pilot' driving the successfull sperm towards the egg.
Although sometimes he has crashes on the way, (explains birth defects).
Yep makes perfect sense.
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 8:10 am
(September 12, 2010 at 7:49 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Maybe theres a little 'god pilot' driving the successfull sperm towards the egg.
Although sometimes he has crashes on the way, (explains birth defects).
Yep makes perfect sense.
And explains creationists too.
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RE: What Intelligent Design Tells Us About God
September 12, 2010 at 8:15 am
(September 12, 2010 at 8:10 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (September 12, 2010 at 7:49 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Maybe theres a little 'god pilot' driving the successfull sperm towards the egg.
Although sometimes he has crashes on the way, (explains birth defects).
Yep makes perfect sense.
And explains creationists too.
and the second coming
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