If God created all the good things around us then it means he created all EVIL too

[Angrboda]

How do you 'know' that this God you are familiar with is omniscient?

I haven't found Him lacking in any knowledge, and the One who created the universe must be all knowing to accomplish such a thing especially speaking it into existence.

How do you know that he/it created the universe? Did you watch him do it?

[Asmodee]

The mental gymnastics on this page are just fabulous!  They should put Christian apologists in the Olympics because these guys have some moves!  Unfortunately, different apologists are saying diametrically opposing things.

One side is saying that evil is the absence of good.  Well how does that work?

I do only good things, I am good.
I do only bad things, I am bad.
I do no good nor bad things, I am bad.
I do both good and bad things, I am bad.

Yeah, that says babies are going to Hell.  We're all total pricks while we're sleeping, apparently.  Seriously, it's like talking to Santa Bot from Futurama.  "Mobsters beating up a shopkeeper for protection money: very naughty. Shopkeeper's not paying their protection money: exactly as naughty."  Never mind the need to beg for forgiveness for sin, described in the Bible as a "stain" (Jeremiah 2:22).  While the heat and light analogies work perfectly if not questioned you'd be hard pressed to find something that will cause a stain in its absence.

And then there's the other camp.  Evil is a real thing which God "allows".  But it wasn't created!  Oh no, God didn't create it so, technically it doesn't exist, but God allows it...so, technically it exists...  Anyway, he would rather have evil and free will than no evil and no free will!  That makes the universe better!  Well, until he defeats Satan for all time, removing the influence of evil on people, completely eliminating evil and, thus, the free will which he holds in such high regard when all his people go to Heaven.  So Heaven is...bad, I guess?  Good thing for all those Hell bound little babies!

[Neo-Scholastic]

The mental gymnastics on this page are just fabulous!  They should put Christian apologists in the Olympics because these guys have some moves!  Unfortunately, different apologists are saying diametrically opposing things. One side is saying that evil is the absence of good.  Well how does that work?

I must be missing the discrepancies you see btwn Godschild and me. Anyway...how does that work, you ask?

The concept of evil as "the lack of the good that ought to be there" is actually pre-Christian. Plato hints at is, but Aristotle developed it in his Nichomachean Ethics, Augustine popularized it. Today we call it virtue ethics. In order for it to work though you need to accept the notions of formal and final cause.* Formal cause is the notion that it means something to be human, more specifically, things that are essentially normative. Final cause is the notion that some things have desired ends, i.e. a purpose. An analogy might help. A dull, bent and rusty nail is a bad nail. It lacks all the essential features a nail ought to have: sharp, straight and fresh. A nail needs to have those features so it can do the job it is supposed to do. Nails have a right and proper use, fastening wood pieces together, not cleaning your ears. It should be obvious how these notions cannot be reconciled with modern atheistic naturalism. The atheist can list all kinds of facts about human beings, but that says nothing about the right and proper way to live, i.e. values. If there is no ultimate purpose to human life then there isn't anything we are supposed to do. If humans don't have essential natures then there are no general virtues for which they should strive.

*I'm not going to defend those right now since that would be a distraction and beyond the scope.

[Godscreated]

I haven't found Him lacking in any knowledge, and the One who created the universe must be all knowing to accomplish such a thing especially speaking it into existence.

How do you know that he/it created the universe? Did you watch him do it?

How do you know dinosaurs turned into birds, were you there.

GC

[Wyrd of Gawd]

How do you know that he/it created the universe?  Did you watch him do it?

How do you know dinosaurs turned into birds, were you there.

GC

How does the liquid egg yolk get into the hard solid shell?

[Angrboda]

How do you know that he/it created the universe?  Did you watch him do it?

How do you know dinosaurs turned into birds, were you there.

No answer then. Sad. So much for you "know" God exists.

[Amarok]

yeah there infinite difference between the large amount of evidence supporting the relation between dinosaurs and birds then god creating the universe

Oh and dinosaurs did not" turn" into birds  that cockaduck nonesense

[Godscreated]

How do you know dinosaurs turned into birds, were you there.

No answer then. Sad. So much for you "know" God exists.

We could play this silly game for many posts but, I don't want to nor do I think it's helpful. So I'll explain, I've said it many times before I have a personal relationship with God, I've seen His work in my life and other lives. He speaks to me through the Bible and on occasion directly. He has never lied to me and He has shown me things that can in no way be coincidental, so I have no reason to doubt who He is.

GC

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How do you know dinosaurs turned into birds, were you there.

GC

How does the liquid egg yolk get into the hard solid shell?

I've cleaned many chickens and seen directly what goes on in the egg making process. When a chicken is born how many eggs does it have and why? How do you eat the yoke without breaking the shell?

GC

[Wyrd of Gawd]

No answer then.  Sad.  So much for you "know" God exists.

We could play this silly game for many posts but, I don't want to nor do I think it's helpful. So I'll explain, I've said it many times before I have a personal relationship with God, I've seen His work in my life and other lives. He speaks to me through the Bible and on occasion directly. He has never lied to me and He has shown me things that can in no way be coincidental, so I have no reason to doubt who He is.

GC

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How does the liquid egg yolk get into the hard solid shell?

I've cleaned many chickens and seen directly what goes on in the egg making process. When a chicken is born how many eggs does it have and why? How do you eat the yoke without breaking the shell?

GC

So you don't know.

[Cyberman]

How do you know that he/it created the universe? Did you watch him do it?

How do you know dinosaurs turned into birds, were you there.

GC

I was.