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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 9, 2017 at 2:08 pm
(February 9, 2017 at 1:09 am)Bella Morte Wrote: (February 8, 2017 at 1:43 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: It was only a short while ago he came close to being banned from the country for hate speech.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/18/europe...index.html
I am aware.
Anything can count as "hate speech" in the UK these days, it's pathetic.
No it cannot, there are very strict rules about what counts as hate speech.
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 11, 2017 at 6:17 pm
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 11, 2017 at 6:42 pm
*Sigh* This is becoming the new normal. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Lies are truth.
I'm so glad that 1984 has become a new best seller in the wake of the presidency of Carrotface McGrabbinpuss. I just get the bad feeling that the people who need to read it, aren't.
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 11, 2017 at 7:11 pm
People need to read Huxley more. This shit is more Brave New World than 1984.
https://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxle...ebcomic-2/
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 11, 2017 at 7:17 pm
I was just telling my hubby that about the similarities to Brave New World! Agreed. Though some stuff is leaning 1984, all the same.
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 11, 2017 at 7:26 pm
(February 11, 2017 at 7:11 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: People need to read Huxley more. This shit is more Brave New World than 1984.
https://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxle...ebcomic-2/
The crazy thing is, Trump is doing both within his own administration.
I mean, he's using strong arm tactics against media that dares to report anything he doesn't like, but he's also distracting the media by acting like a complete loon. We aren't paying attention to the tax bills he's passing or what he's doing with our health care system and nobody notices how much the rest of the world hates us even more with Trump in office. What are they paying attention to? Pee pee tapes, his Twitter feed after a new episode of Saturday Night Live and Ivanka's clothing line.
Huxley and Orwell were both right. Unfortunately.
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 11, 2017 at 9:25 pm
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Pedantic..but, orwell probably wasn't worried that any of that might happen, he thought it already had. 1984 was a criticism of wartime (and early postwar) britain.
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 11, 2017 at 10:56 pm
Our existing society already reflected A Brave New World (all hail Ford). That was well underway before Trump was elected.
People want new things, all the time, and lots of them. I've always said, I'd rather have one well made $50 sweater once a year, than 5, crappy $10 ones, but most people seem to disagree (in practice). Over consumption of pretty much all things decadent, from junky TV to junky food, is the norm.
I will say that I think this LED to Trump, though, and the possibility that things will become more Orwellian. Enouhg people loved him on his TV show, and admire the gluttonous, irreverantly decadent lifestyle he lives to think he's be a great leader because of those exact traits.
It depends on how people treat the real, free press, and how well the gov't checks and balances hold up. It's possible he'll TRY and screw both, but the majority of folks won't let him. It's also possible they will sit watching Survivor, eating Cheetos and drinking Coors, cheering at his distracting twitter feed while he destroys it all.
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 12, 2017 at 12:29 am
(February 11, 2017 at 6:17 pm)Aegon Wrote:
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RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 12, 2017 at 12:45 am
(February 12, 2017 at 12:29 am)CanOfMountainDew Wrote: (February 11, 2017 at 6:17 pm)Aegon Wrote:
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This isn't liberal smearing. This is the media reporting what he's doing and anything making him look bad is considered fake. Any time he's called out for his lies, they're called fake. It's not just CNN and NYT. It's NPR. It'a WSJ. It's everybody besides Brietbart
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