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RE: What would change your mind?
March 8, 2017 at 12:10 pm
(March 4, 2017 at 11:31 am)Joshua martin pryce Wrote: (February 21, 2017 at 12:46 pm)hyperchord24 Wrote: I hope this is the right place to post this and I wonder if the subject has been broached before. What could God do to prove his existence? Everyone runs around saying, I can't see him, so sorry. If you asked a christian, they'd say the bible proves his existence. Forget that. What sort of things would he have to do to prove it. Show his face from the heavens? Flood the earth? End all suffering? What could make you change your mind?
its a very good question you ask. god couldnt simply prove a way he exists in a way that you would understand it. if he came to you in dreams and visions you wouldnt believe. if he healed you you wouldnt believe, etc. gods theories make sense like saying evil is out to kill steal and destroy you and your life. and that he wants good for you. faith is what god uses to communicate in his relationship with humans. without faith we couldnt see god and the bible says that. but i think its personal experiences and personal ("going to god") that will help you see him and seeing results from prayers that would help you see he exists. i couldnt give you my experiences if i could you wouldnt believe. its on experience that god shows himself.
(February 27, 2017 at 5:02 am)Alex K Wrote: Eyebrows for sure...
if someone gained godlike powers and begin flaunting them you wouldnt believe in god but in the person. and you still wouldnt believe.
(February 27, 2017 at 4:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: If God would sort out all our stupidity and mistakes then why worry about it so let us do them again and again. 
You never thought of that Bella, did you? 
if he showed himself you would be forced to believe and that would ruin the meaning of love and a relationship with god. why should god put up with evil doers who want nothing to do with him. your basically saying we dont want you god but want us. care about us. how would you feel if you cared about someone that didnt care about you and hated you! god has made a paradise that is reserved for people that believe in him and love him. he will show himself and be with his people in heaven and surrounded beauty and enlightenment. if you believe in jesus and use your faith to commuincate with god and depend on me that is all you need to do to get there.
(February 23, 2017 at 10:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: That is the problem Kernel.
Most people get an idea about God looking at what religions say and that is wrong.
Religions born out from spirituality.
Shiva, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus were teaching spirituality not religion.
The problem however is that those who came later twisted this spirituality into religion which
of course is not what the spiritualists were teaching.
The caste of priests try and succeed to become intermediaries between God and the masses.
They invented the hell and a myriad of other rubbish in order to control the mind of the masses.
The thing however is that God reject these intermediaries but fool people think that these self proclamed intermediaries tell the word of God.
But nothing is lost Kernel.
God is alive and well and He sees were lie the rot and were lie the sincerity.
As far as anybody act with sincerity God will show up to them. 
Have you got any evidence that God did write those Holy books or that he ever said what is written in the holy books? 
Only 2000 years you reckon?
What about some millions of years since the matter became plant and the plant became an animal and an animal become a man (man-woman)?
Then why God didn't show up to a stone or a plant or an animal?
Give time Nympha.
When the human is ready then and only then God will show up but again the mind must be free from non logic dogmas.
why should god show himself to you when you want to see him but you dont want to follow him. your asking god to think and behave like a man but one that loves blindly.
Because it would be ridiculous to try to follow someone or something that hasn't been shown to exist.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
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RE: What would change your mind?
March 9, 2017 at 2:03 am
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Interesting, isn't it, how "God" can do anything except prove its existence.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What would change your mind?
March 9, 2017 at 9:19 am
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It is all about free will guys.
When your free will WILL be directed or focus in a particular direction then you will see in that direction.
When on the other hand your free will WILL not focus in a particular direction then you will not see anything
there. 
It is all so so simple but you guys make it so so difficult.
Why? 
(March 8, 2017 at 12:10 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Because it would be ridiculous to try to follow someone or something that hasn't been shown to exist.
That is a ridiculous idea. 
Take all the discoveries that humans made since we exist.
If those who discovered something would have thought in the same way as you think then nothing would have been discovered.
These people would have been waiting and waiting for the bread to fall from the sky but they didn't.
They use logic, they use also guessing until their guessing and hard work turn into reality.
You guys on the other hand wait and wait until the bread fall from the sky.
In this way you will wait for ever.
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RE: What would change your mind?
March 9, 2017 at 1:14 pm
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
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RE: What would change your mind?
March 10, 2017 at 7:17 am
(March 9, 2017 at 1:14 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: (March 9, 2017 at 9:19 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is all about free will guys.
When your free will WILL be directed or focus in a particular direction then you will see in that direction.
When on the other hand your free will WILL not focus in a particular direction then you will not see anything
there.
It is all so so simple but you guys make it so so difficult.
Why?
That is a ridiculous idea.
Take all the discoveries that humans made since we exist.
If those who discovered something would have thought in the same way as you think then nothing would have been discovered.
These people would have been waiting and waiting for the bread to fall from the sky but they didn't.
They use logic, they use also guessing until their guessing and hard work turn into reality.
You guys on the other hand wait and wait until the bread fall from the sky.
In this way you will wait for ever.
In the context of the discussion, it's a fine idea. No reason to "focus my free will" on something that, for all intents and purposes, has been shown to be a scam.
Oh, I see.
The bread didn't fall from the sky eh?
But don't you worry too much mate.
You got the eternity to work out how the whole system works.
As far as your free will focus on the material-physical game nobody will force you to believe in anything else. 
Enjoy it.
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RE: What would change your mind?
March 22, 2017 at 8:57 pm
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What would change your mind?
March 28, 2017 at 5:05 am
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A gun, stick up, continuous threats and insults, which I'm currently receiving in a very well-timed and clever, subtle and inconspicuous manner........into a really really really clever ploy/plot, a part of which is having me 'mental' mind going dull as shit!
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RE: What would change your mind?
March 28, 2017 at 8:13 am
Aw, the poor hard-done-by xtian martyr. How could we be so mean?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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