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Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
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 (February 27, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Exactly how is the fetus autonomous? Mentally, can it make its own medical decisions? Physically, can it go where it wants, eat as it wishes, and so on? Neither can a newborn, but we're not allowed to kill those.  Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Grow a pair of balls and answer a simple question already.What is your question?  (February 28, 2017 at 12:14 pm)alpha male Wrote: Neither can a newborn, but we're not allowed to kill those. Maybe read some medical journals at some time to understand the distinction. But I'm not holding my breath that any of you will come up with some educated reply at some point. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
(February 28, 2017 at 12:49 pm)abaris Wrote:(February 28, 2017 at 12:14 pm)alpha male Wrote: Neither can a newborn, but we're not allowed to kill those. Dodge 
(February 28, 2017 at 12:49 pm)abaris Wrote:(February 28, 2017 at 12:14 pm)alpha male Wrote: Neither can a newborn, but we're not allowed to kill those. Okay. So your argument is a fetus is not a baby and hence doesn't deserve bodily autonomy? This is a clever way of using different words to create a false reasoning. A fetus is still a baby, just an underdeveloped one. You know it, I know it, everybody know it, but you substitute the word baby with fetus and suddenly it looses every one of its rights. Entertain this idea: Bodily autonomy is not limited to babies. All human beings deserve bodily autonomy. A human fetus is still human. It still deserves the right to live.  RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
February 28, 2017 at 4:00 pm
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(February 28, 2017 at 12:14 pm)alpha male Wrote:(February 27, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Exactly how is the fetus autonomous? Mentally, can it make its own medical decisions? Physically, can it go where it wants, eat as it wishes, and so on? ... and neither do they have bodily autonomy, which was the point under discussion. Do try and keep these things straight. 
An infant isn't living inside some else
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February 28, 2017 at 4:12 pm
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(February 28, 2017 at 12:22 pm)pool the great Wrote:Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Grow a pair of balls and answer a simple question already.What is your question? I've already asked it at least four times. Do keep up, child. I'm not repeating myself for your benefit. You're expected to stay abreast my points as your part of this discussion, and I won't do your legwork. Learn to use your scrollbar and get to work. RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
February 28, 2017 at 5:38 pm
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(February 28, 2017 at 4:00 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(February 28, 2017 at 12:14 pm)alpha male Wrote: Neither can a newborn, but we're not allowed to kill those. I'm not the one who doesn't have it straight. Neither has bodily autonomy. Therefore, if bodily autonomy is the deciding factor, then both should have the same rights. I'm assuming (haven't read it all) that you're assigning them different rights. Therefore, bodily autonomy is not (for you) the deciding factor. (February 28, 2017 at 4:03 pm)Orochi Wrote: An infant isn't living inside some else Nope, but bodily autonomy was proposed as the deciding factor, and neither has bodily autonomy. RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
February 28, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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(February 28, 2017 at 5:38 pm)alpha male Wrote: I'm not the one who doesn't have it straight. Neither has bodily autonomy. Therefore, if bodily autonomy is the deciding factor, then both should have the same rights. I'm assuming (haven't read it all) that you're assigning them different rights. Therefore, bodily autonomy is not (for you) the deciding factor. I am. I hold that an adult human has more rights than a fetus. The courts agree with this assessment. I think common sense does, too. It's clear that the fetus has no autonomy, by nature of its existence. Additionally, adults do have the right to be free of governmental decision regarding their medical treatment -- i.e., bodily autonomy -- barring felony conviction. So yes, I think you're the one who doesn't have it straight. |
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