WikiLeaks/CIA

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More AP news: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/U...8-07-05-35

Why is my TV looking at me funny?

And my car keeps trying to turn into liquor stores.

[Anomalocaris]

While the documents may or may not be legit, I am 90% certain it's release at this time is a tactical move instigated by Russia to preempt any investigation into Russian cyberwarfare during the American election, and create the preemptive impression any evidence of materially relevant Russian intrusion really can not be distinguished from a CIA operation made to look Russian and perhaps designed to implicate Russia, and top American intelligence organizations, enemies of the trump Russian help to put into the whitehouse, is more frightening then trump, so as to feed the paranoia about the "deep state".

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While the documents may or may not be legit, I am 90% certain it's release at this time is a tactical move instigated by Russia to preempt any investigation into Russian cyberwarfare during the American election, and create the preemptive impression any evidence of materially relevant Russian intrusion really can not be distinguished from a CIA operation made to look Russian and perhaps designed to implicate Russia, and top American intelligence organizations, enemies of the trump Russian help to put into the whitehouse, is more frightening then trump, so as to feed the paranoia about the "deep state".

Um, wut? Conspiracy?

[Anomalocaris]

While the documents may or may not be legit, I am 90% certain it's release at this time is a tactical move instigated by Russia to preempt any investigation into Russian cyberwarfare during the American election, and create the preemptive impression any evidence of materially relevant Russian intrusion really can not be distinguished from a CIA operation made to look Russian and perhaps designed to implicate Russia, and top American intelligence organizations, enemies of the trump Russian help to put into the whitehouse, is more frightening then trump, so as to feed the paranoia about the "deep state".

Um, wut? Conspiracy?

No conspiracy, just Russia pulling assange's strings to make timely and effective use of Wikileaks to influence American election and discredit accusations of Russian involvement at critical times, as Russia has done throughout the election.

While CIA may be out of control, revealing CIA is out of control at this particular time is certainly of both the greatest immediate benefit to trump, who deflects criticism of his own incompetence by accusing a "deep state" of sabotaging him, and to Russia, which needs to deflect any investigation into its own cyber warfare.

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Um, wut? Conspiracy?

No conspiracy, just Russia pulling assange's strings to make timely and effective use of Wikileaks to influence American election and discredit accusations of Russian involvement at critical times, as Russia has done throughout the election.

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That's the definition of conspiracy.

[Anomalocaris]

No conspiracy, just Russia pulling assange's strings to make timely and effective use of Wikileaks to influence American election and discredit accusations of Russian involvement at critical times, as Russia has done throughout the election.

bold mine 

That's the definition of conspiracy.

In that case any calculated leaks or disinformation campaign through proxy is a conspiracy.

[Faith No More]

Last year there were news reports of hackers being able to use these unsecured devices - toasters, thermostats, X-Boxes- to access computers and phones. If hackers can do it , why is it news that spys can do it?

I think the revelation is less that they can do it and more about how aggressively they've done it(not that that's all that surprising either). The other big thing was that they lost control of their software and have no idea who now has their hundreds of millions of lines of code they wrote to hack people. The 'C' in CIA has never stood for competency.

It seems pretty clear to me that the timing of this leak dropping while Trump is taking so much heat over the Russians and his Obama wire-tapping claim was no coincidence.

[Anomalocaris]

These revelations show regardless of whether CIA's technical snooping had ever fulfilled any part of its raison d'etre, CIA and the US are bumbling amateurs when it comes to how to using information effectively and preventing information from being used effectively against it.

In the recent exchange, I feel we are witnessing a force skilled in its craft, cohesive in its goals and sound in its leadership invading and making mince meat of a march larger, better equipped, but tincompetently led force, amateurish in its art, crippled by internal purges and fear of purges.

Last time this happened was during the first days of German military invasion of Russia. This time it is Russian information warfare against the US.

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Wonder if this will give Tib's any penetration insights?

[Joods]

Oh look.... Comey says "There is no such thing as absolute privacy in America"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/politics/j...d=35251067

(CNN)FBI Director James Comey warned Wednesday that Americans should not have expectations of "absolute privacy," adding that he planned to finish his term leading the FBI.

"There is no such thing as absolute privacy in America; there is no place outside of judicial reach," Comey said at a Boston College conference on cybersecurity. He made the remark as he discussed the rise of encryption since 2013 disclosures by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden revealed sensitive US spy practices.

But he goes on...

But, he said, Americans "have a reasonable expectation of privacy in our homes, in our cars, in our devices. It is a vital part of being an American. The government cannot invade our privacy without good reason, reviewable in court."



Comey said that in the last four months of 2016, the FBI lawfully gained access to 2,800 devices recovered in criminal, terrorism and counterintelligence investigations and the FBI was unable to open 43% of those devices.