Evolution Questions

[brewer]

Polaris-
Just had to reply to your comment " but I don't believe in alien life".
Two friends and I watched an Alien Space Craft hover about three hundred feet away from us.
Sighting lasted about a minute.If anybody wants to see more about our encounter check it out here:
vnovak.com/ufo14feb2011.html

Existence of alien life unmakes god in some circles. Be careful, you may be committing heresy in more than one of the 40K denominations.

[Astreja]

If you believe all living beings including humans evolved, where did the ( "self-replicating" modules ) come from?

Natural atomic valence bonds of 4 elements -- Hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen and oxygen.

In order for a molecule to be capable of such a thing, initially it is a fairly random process of atoms joining up with one another.  However, once one has a simple structure of atoms, internally with fairly strong bonds but with weak outer bonds that attract specific atoms to create the same pattern (and then allow it to break away in an identical "chunk" due to strong internal bonding but not-so-strong molecule-to-molecule attraction), you now have 2 molecules capable of this trick.

Over time, a similar process can create increasingly complex molecules.  That's what DNA and RNA actually are -- complex molecules capable of duplicating themselves.

(Oh, and I don't believe for one razzafracking minute that such a process as this would require any gods.  All you need is a bunch of atoms.)

[The Valkyrie]

Astreja - Thanks for being only one of two answering my last question:
"Where did all the living creatures ,including us, come from and managed to be so complex like all living beings are?"
 with an actual answer of your own ideas.
If you believe all living beings including humans evolved, where did the ( "self-replicating" modules ) come from?
Think about how complex the human brain is and the way our bodies are designed inside.
I am looking forward to your answer.Thanks again!

And there's the script.
"But how do you explain this thing? - oh, you can't? - well then goddidit!"

I knew this was where it was going to lead.

Ray Comfort "curiosity":  doesn't really want the questions answered, just wants to reinforce his own beliefs with an "ah ha!  You don't know, therefor god!" moment.

How predictable.

[Astreja]

It gets pretty tiresome, all these willfully clueless believers trying to out-science us in the forlorn hope that their ignorance will somehow lead us to their imaginary friend.

[Mister Agenda]

Astreja - Thanks for being only one of two answering my last question:
"Where did all the living creatures ,including us, come from and managed to be so complex like all living beings are?"
 with an actual answer of your own ideas.
If you believe all living beings including humans evolved, where did the ( "self-replicating" modules ) come from?
Think about how complex the human brain is and the way our bodies are designed inside.
I am looking forward to your answer.Thanks again!

Speak of the devil! Just when I was giving up on you.

I addressed the 'where did self-replicating molecules come from' question already.

In evolution, an organism (or organ) will keep becoming more complex as long as there is a reproductive advantage to doing so.

[Brian37]

If you believe all living beings including humans evolved, where did the ( "self-replicating" modules ) come from?

Natural atomic valence bonds of 4 elements -- Hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen and oxygen.

In order for a molecule to be capable of such a thing, initially it is a fairly random process of atoms joining up with one another.  However, once one has a simple structure of atoms, internally with fairly strong bonds but with weak outer bonds that attract specific atoms to create the same pattern (and then allow it to break away in an identical "chunk" due to strong internal bonding but not-so-strong molecule-to-molecule attraction), you now have 2 molecules capable of this trick.

Over time, a similar process can create increasingly complex molecules.  That's what DNA and RNA actually are -- complex molecules capable of duplicating themselves.

(Oh, and I don't believe for one razzafracking minute that such a process as this would require any gods.  All you need is a bunch of atoms.)

What? Now you tell me. All this time I thought it was Sponge Bob.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Polaris-
Just had to reply to your comment " but I don't believe in alien life".
Two friends and I watched an Alien Space Craft hover about three hundred feet away from us.
Sighting lasted about a minute.If anybody wants to see more about our encounter check it out here:
vnovak.com/ufo14feb2011.html

[Bold mine]

Umm, no you didn't.

Boru

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It gets pretty tiresome, all these willfully clueless believers trying to out-science us in the forlorn hope that their ignorance will somehow lead us to their imaginary friend.

It's all they got.

[The Valkyrie]

Polaris-
Just had to reply to your comment " but I don't believe in alien life".
Two friends and I watched an Alien Space Craft hover about three hundred feet away from us.
Sighting lasted about a minute.If anybody wants to see more about our encounter check it out here:
vnovak.com/ufo14feb2011.html

[Bold mine]

Umm, no you didn't.

Boru

Hey, these things happen.

I was once abducted by a trio of 2 inch high aliens who came out of a spaceship that crashed in my back yard!

Okay, I was very drunk at the time.

And it MAY have been a Frisbee.

And I MAY have tripped over some garden gnomes.

And there MAY have been only two of them.

But tell me, do I strike you as the type of person who would make this stuff up?

[Astreja]

I always knew those garden gnomes were trouble. Could poke someone's eye out with one of those pointy red hats!