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Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?

Poll: Can Intelligent Design be considered Science?
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Yes, and has powerful evidence to support it
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Yes, but I don't agree with it
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No, design is not testable
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No, but I agree with it
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No, religious dogma
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Only if science abandons its presumption of naturalism
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Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 2:57 am
Since when is an argument from ignorance a scientific theory?
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 3:09 am
(March 25, 2017 at 12:31 am)TheAtheologian Wrote: Do you believe ID could be science or that design wouldn't be testable anyways?

Just as soon as they produce one single testable, falsifiable claim, I'll entertain the idea that they could be science.

You know what the smoking gun is? You don't hear anything but denials and attempts to discredit scientific findings out of the ID camp.

They literally never produce research, except in their own little echo chamber journals.
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 5:51 am (This post was last modified: March 25, 2017 at 5:51 am by Alex K.)
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 7:26 am
ID fails to answer anything, if someone or something designed life, it fails to explain where that something came from. Was there a designer of the designer? All it does is move the question back one step, it answers nothing
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 7:32 am
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 7:53 am
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 2:46 pm
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 3:11 pm
(March 25, 2017 at 2:46 pm)TheAtheologian Wrote:
(March 25, 2017 at 7:53 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Specified complexity as it has been advanced by proponents like William Dembski is known to be pseudoscientific.  Its claims to mathematical rigor are false and it depends upon unspecified statistical operations.  Moreover, it's a thinly veiled cover for religious speculations as the unspecified designer is presumed to be God, and not a naturalistic speculation like panspermia.  This takes it outside the realm of legitimate scientific speculation.  At bottom of the specified complexity argument is the analogy that because human designers produce artifacts possessing specified complexity, the existence of specified complexity is an indication of a non-natural process (design).  This ignores the fact that human capacity for design is supposedly naturalistic in origin as having been the product of evolution.

Irreducible complexity is nothing more than an argument from ignorance and thus doesn't qualify as a scientific hypothesis.  It, too, postulates a supernatural designer by necessity.

Contrary to your claim that ID proponents do not push teaching ID in schools, one of the best funded organizations, the Discovery Institute, does just that by promoting its covert campaign to "Teach The Controversy."

Yes, I know they want evolution to be taught as a controversy, but currently are not for pushing ID into public schools.

Because they can't come up with a rigor for it. Just bald assertions. The Unintelligent Design Institute didn't want the Dover Bored of Education to add it to the curriculum. That's why they didn't send an serious "talent" to the trial.
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 25, 2017 at 6:55 pm
OP: Nope. The other posts here covered it just fine.
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
March 26, 2017 at 12:04 am
(March 25, 2017 at 3:11 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(March 25, 2017 at 2:46 pm)TheAtheologian Wrote: Yes, I know they want evolution to be taught as a controversy, but currently are not for pushing ID into public schools.

Because they can't come up with a rigor for it. Just bald assertions. The Unintelligent Design Institute didn't want the Dover Bored of Education to add it to the curriculum. That's why they didn't send an serious "talent" to the trial.

Intelligent Design isn't a complete hypothesis, and I don't see it ever being that way. Maybe they also figure that they wouldn't get far by trying to push it into schools.
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