Fred doesn't understand what "steal" means.
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Madonna Steals Two More African Children From Malawi
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March 25, 2017 at 1:28 pm
(This post was last modified: March 25, 2017 at 1:42 pm by Fred Hampton.)
(March 25, 2017 at 1:21 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: I'm irked with Fred Hampton's inability to post a coherent narrative or position on his "evidence". My brief narrative(post #5) and the quotes are adequately understandable as to my position on Madonna's role in the international adoption industry, which is highly corrupt. (March 25, 2017 at 1:27 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Fred doesn't understand what "steal" means. Yeah, I do, and international lawyers do too. You have heard of "human trafficking", right? They have Fed committes on the issue. Pretty straightforward stuff. "Trafficker" steals child from family--if they are still alive and or can be located. Madonna, or whoever--"do gooder"--buys child thru adoption agency @ grossly inflated price for profit! It's a business and Madonna gets good PR. And no one(except people like me and BSpear), and especially Madonna, addresses the why!
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If you understood what "steal" meant you'd realize it doesn't mean "adopt".
(March 25, 2017 at 1:37 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: If you understood what "steal" meant you'd realize it doesn't mean "adopt".Have you read anything on this thread? How about try it.
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Apparently Madonna is responsible for the corrupt and illegal behaviors of adoption agencies throughout the entirety of the continent of Africa.
Can you show that Madonna has colluded with any questionable agency to illegally adopt? If she has no bearing on how the child came to the adoption agency, what is her responsibility in this? Slave to the Patriarchy no more
 (March 25, 2017 at 1:28 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: [edit] bold mine I'll address it, because she can, legally.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
(March 25, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote:(March 25, 2017 at 1:37 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: If you understood what "steal" meant you'd realize it doesn't mean "adopt".Have you read anything on this thread? How about try it. Yes... I have. But a sound argument requires sound premises and your entire argument is based on the wrongness of Madonna "stealing" or "kidnapping" children. But she hasn't stolen or kidnapped them she's adopted them. 
Ok, I know there is quite a lot of kidnapping going on, but Madonna isn't the one kidnapping kids, and may not even be aware of it.
Right, so my understanding is that Christian groups and dishonorable money grubbers go to poor countries, start orphanages, then take in actual orphans and ALSO hire people to outright steal children, or coerce poor families into giving them up. The adopting parents are not aware of this when they adopt. They are just people looking to adopt an orphan, for whatever reason. If they give the child love and a good upbringing, who cares for the personal motives? There are still actual orphans involved. At this point, does anyone have information that the specific children Madonna adopted were of the kidnapped or coerced variety, and not of the actual orphan variety? Or are people just up in arms because a middle aged, unmarried, female celebrity is adopting more kids and we like to shit on celebrity motives for this?
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March 25, 2017 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: March 25, 2017 at 1:50 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(March 25, 2017 at 1:47 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(March 25, 2017 at 1:28 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: [edit] ^^^This guy gets it^^^ Last I checked the legal act of adoption isn't the same thing as the illegal act of kidnapping. It is clear that Fred is distorting what's actually legally happening because he's a moron. RE: Madonna Steals Two More African Children From Malawi
March 25, 2017 at 2:01 pm
(This post was last modified: March 25, 2017 at 2:16 pm by Fred Hampton.)
p.s., usually people WANT evidence, links, credentialed quotes.
(March 25, 2017 at 1:48 pm)Aroura Wrote: Ok, I know there is quite a lot of kidnapping going on, but Madonna isn't the one kidnapping kids, and may not even be aware of it. The adoption agencies, most of them, do know that adoptable children are often acquired by nefarious means. But they turn a blind eye. Why? $$$. It's capitalism, imperialism, it's a profit thing. Profits over people is the modus operandi, and there is big $ to be made stealing and selling other people's children. But the main sub theme of this thread asks the why of it. Why are there forlorn, orphaned, 3rd World poor children all over the planet? I have answered that question brielfy--with graphics--but I can go on answering it if by popular demand. Madonna, of course, never addresses that question, she's is probably incapable of even asking it. I'll ask again. Why aren't Africans adopting stolen, white American children? Quote:Child laundering is a scheme whereby intercountry adoptions are effected by illegal and fraudulent means. It may involve the , the acquisition of children through monetary arrangements, deceit and/or force. The children may then be held in sham orphanages while formal international adoption processes are used to send the children to adoptive parents in another country.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_laundering
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