Somali reporters walk out in protest at islamic take over

[Ashendant]

The Islamics leaders are trying to control the people through propaganda.

Its like if Fox was the only news channel and they tried to get john Stewart to say the news 'their way'.

They are standing up for their principles and you have a problem with that?

Corruption is not Somalias biggest problem it is the rule through fear that the muslims are at least a part of.

I happen to have friends from Somalia; an exploited and impoverished nation where european and american industrial companies paid the old government to dump nuclear YES NUCLEAR waste on their land as well as allowing violent crime and drug exports to flourish. To compare the "Islamists" very slim control of the media to propaganda on the scale of fox news is to display a total lack of your understanding of proportion; you may as well compare the holocaust to an ant infestiation in your kitchen.

Who is standing up for what principles exactly? A few middle class business owners and white collar workers whine because their american backed and technically still current (since the vassal states class them as terrorists refuse to recognise them as an authority) government employers are shown the door by a mass revolt and you consider that to be an issue worthy of your attention? The same thing usually happens in former puppet regimes, when a revolution takes place it's the people at the top, those white collar idiots, who make a fuss because they're no longer in control, the same thing is happening in Venezuela.

Obviously i'm of the opinion that any revolution is better than leaving the world existing as it is, whether it's Islamic or whatever, if this was 20 years ago it would've been Communist, and armchair critics would still be finding excuses to condemn it, and when you find yourself disliking the things that your government dislikes you'll find that that itself is the only propaganda in action here..

I think the point is that the radio tower was taken over, and the islamic rebels wanted for it to declare the government as an apostate, they choose not to because only when journalists are impartial is when they are taken seriously, they would lose their credibility if they claimed that

[Cerrone]

I think the point is that the radio tower was taken over, and the islamic rebels wanted for it to declare the government as an apostate, they choose not to because only when journalists are impartial is when they are taken seriously, they would lose their credibility if they claimed that

Then that is a failure on the part of those reporters to have not taken the opportunity to condemn their government... and worse than that it's egotism and vanity; if they're so hung up on preserving their outward appearance by holding up the impartiality card that they don't take a stand on daring to state the truth factually against whats left of their corrupt puppet government.

Wrong is wrong, and right is right, and times like they're going through they can't afford to tip toe around impartialialty unless they're directly benefiting from the corrupt government and its allies themselves, and they probably are in some way. Either that or they just want to make hinderances to the islamic revolution in Somalia for the hell of it.



I'll do some research on this situation actually, I think it merits it

[Ashendant]

I think the point is that the radio tower was taken over, and the islamic rebels wanted for it to declare the government as an apostate, they choose not to because only when journalists are impartial is when they are taken seriously, they would lose their credibility if they claimed that

Then that is a failure on the part of those reporters to have not taken the opportunity to condemn their government... and worse than that it's egotism and vanity; if they're so hung up on preserving their outward appearance by holding up the impartiality card that they don't take a stand on daring to state the truth factually against whats left of their corrupt puppet government.

Wrong is wrong, and right is right, and times like they're going through they can't afford to tip toe around impartialialty unless they're directly benefiting from the corrupt government and its allies themselves, and they probably are in some way. Either that or they just want to make hinderances to the islamic revolution in Somalia for the hell of it.



I'll do some research on this situation actually, I think it merits it

They didn't want to claim that the government was corrupt they wanted them to declare that the government was an apostate, when according to the article they reported foreign sports and places to avoid due to violence.

[Cerrone]

They didn't want to claim that the government was corrupt they wanted them to declare that the government was an apostate, when according to the article they reported foreign sports and places to avoid due to violence.

But apostate in Islamic means corrupted.

I stand by what I said previously by the way; the reporters should take the opportunity to speak out agains the somali government, and the reason that they're not is pathetic on the fence and indifferent liberalism in refusing to do anything of any meaning or value. How very western of them.

[Ashendant]

They didn't want to claim that the government was corrupt they wanted them to declare that the government was an apostate, when according to the article they reported foreign sports and places to avoid due to violence.

But apostate in Islamic means corrupted.

I stand by what I said previously by the way; the reporters should take the opportunity to speak out agains the somali government, and the reason that they're not is pathetic on the fence and indifferent liberalism in refusing to do anything of any meaning or value. How very western of them.

I'm pretty sure apostasy means something like fighting against god, it migt man corruption but it's not political corruption it's more of religious corruption

[Jaysyn]

But apostate in Islamic means corrupted.

Not according to Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy#Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

Plus, Islamic isn't a language anyhow & the word apostate comes from a Greek root.

http://www.spirithome.com/heresy.html
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/apostasy

[Cerrone]

But apostate in Islamic means corrupted.

Not according to Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy#Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

Plus, Islamic isn't a language anyhow & the word apostate comes from a Greek root.

http://www.spirithome.com/heresy.html
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/apostasy

lol no islamic isn't a language, I could've phrased that better couldn't i?

I meant that in Islamic tradition when a state is considered to be an apostate, it means that the state is ungodly, ungodliness taditionally meaning that the rulers and officials are corrupt etc etc