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Ask a former IV heroin addict
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RE: Ask a former IV heroin addict
Why? As in, did it just feel that good or was it escapism from something?
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(April 9, 2017 at 7:44 pm)AceBoogie Wrote: Same to you brother. I've heard terrible things about alcohol addiction and if I'm not mistaken alcohol withdrawal is the one type of withdrawal you can actually die from? Maybe benzo withdrawal as well I'm not sure about that though.

Yes and yes.

Withdrawal can be very dangerous.
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I hit the rock for a bit, but due to having a pretty good life was able to walk away when I realized I was becoming addicted. That was about 15 years ago that I quit. I would try anything smokable in the late 90s/early oughts; a time when I was hanging out with some women who were having a rougher time than me. It was foolish and I regret it, but I suppose it was a good lesson to learn.

Or maybe I'm just too lazy to put in all that effort chasing a high. It's like a whole lifestyle. I'm sure I would have wound up living in a small trailer in a bad neighborhood if I had stuck with it.
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#24
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Good Ama. I'm glad you found your way out. There's a substance abuse recovery thread if you're interested in posting there https://atheistforums.org/thread-46191.html. Been a while since somebody posted in it but.
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(April 10, 2017 at 11:01 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I hit the rock for a bit, but due to having a pretty good life was able to walk away when I realized I was becoming addicted. That was about 15 years ago that I quit. I would try anything smokable in the late 90s/early oughts; a time when I was hanging out with some women who were having a rougher time than me. It was foolish and I regret it, but I suppose it was a good lesson to learn.

Or maybe I'm just too lazy to put in all that effort chasing a high. It's like a whole lifestyle. I'm sure I would have wound up living in a small trailer in a bad neighborhood if I had stuck with it.

I love you buddy, we agree most of the time, but I don't see "lifestyle" as appropriate to say. It is an addiction. And addictions affect all classes, even the middle class and rich. I think using that word allows people to be stigmatized, especially the poor.
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(April 10, 2017 at 12:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 10, 2017 at 11:01 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I hit the rock for a bit, but due to having a pretty good life was able to walk away when I realized I was becoming addicted. That was about 15 years ago that I quit. I would try anything smokable in the late 90s/early oughts; a time when I was hanging out with some women who were having a rougher time than me. It was foolish and I regret it, but I suppose it was a good lesson to learn.

Or maybe I'm just too lazy to put in all that effort chasing a high. It's like a whole lifestyle. I'm sure I would have wound up living in a small trailer in a bad neighborhood if I had stuck with it.

I love you buddy, we agree most of the time, but I don't see "lifestyle" as appropriate to say. It is an addiction. And addictions affect all classes, even the middle class and rich. I think using that word allows people to be stigmatized, especially the poor.

I see what you're saying, but I do think it becomes something of a lifestyle. I mean, you literally style your life around the addiction.
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(April 10, 2017 at 12:28 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(April 10, 2017 at 12:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I love you buddy, we agree most of the time, but I don't see "lifestyle" as appropriate to say. It is an addiction. And addictions affect all classes, even the middle class and rich. I think using that word allows people to be stigmatized, especially the poor.

I see what you're saying, but I do think it becomes something of a lifestyle. I mean, you literally style your life around the addiction.

No "style" involved, your brain screams for it. Yes you do center your life trying to get the next high, yes, but I wouldn't call that a "style" merely an addiction that drives you to it.
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(April 10, 2017 at 10:07 am)Longhorn Wrote: Why? As in, did it just feel that good or was it escapism from something?

I think it was a combination of both. Even with the heroin, it started out just something that felt good to do. Then after some time I think it became more about self medicating than anything else. Opiates took away anything resembling anxiety, sadness or depression... so even if using heroin started out innocently, it became so much more than that by the end.

Also I would argue that there is something inherently different between someone willing to try a hard drug like heroin and someone who maybe just smokes pot or drinks. I mean, drugs are drugs, alcohol included. But considering the stigma attached to harder drugs I would probably lean toward thinking there is some genetic component to addiction where, for whatever reason, I thought it was okay to stick a needle in my arm, whereas most folks would see that as completely insane.

Or maybe it's a combination of genetic factors and traumatic life experiences I went through in my younger years. Who knows?
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To me, it seemed to take away all the pain. Nothing but a fleeting moment yes. I came to embrace the pain. I kept thinking in my mind that in a few years, I would be free. I knew that when I looked back like I am now, i would be feeling real dumb for getting into it in the first place. Heh, we make mistakes all the time, and I am now on a better high than I ever imagined back then.
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(April 10, 2017 at 2:31 pm)LastPoet Wrote: To me, it seemed to take away all the pain. Nothing but a fleeting moment yes. I came to embrace the pain. I kept thinking in my mind that in a few years, I would be free. I knew that when I looked back like I am now, i would be feeling real dumb for getting into it in the first place. Heh, we make mistakes all the time, and I am now on a better high than I ever imagined back then.

I hear you! Glad you made it out as well. That life is simply not worth it.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.

It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.

Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll


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