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I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
#61
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
Oh goody just what we needed another bomb
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#62
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
(April 15, 2017 at 12:45 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(April 15, 2017 at 10:43 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Afghans report three caves were collapsed.

Just saw on the news that Afghan authorities have updated ISIS casualties from 36 to 94, so far.

If you believe them; NATO did the exact same propaganda during the War in Yugoslavia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombi...#Aftermath

How do the Afghan authorities even know any of this?  Have they now gone into the region where ISIS allegedly is (or, was)?  Use a little more skepticism; that way, you don't deceive yourself from nonsense.  If they have physical evidence, well, then let's see it!
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#63
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
(April 15, 2017 at 3:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(April 15, 2017 at 12:45 pm)A Theist Wrote: Just saw on the news that Afghan authorities have updated ISIS casualties from 36 to 94, so far.

If you believe them; NATO did the exact same propaganda during the War in Yugoslavia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombi...#Aftermath

How do the Afghan authorities even know any of this?  Have they now gone into the region where ISIS allegedly is (or, was)?  Use a little more skepticism; that way, you don't deceive yourself from nonsense.  If they have physical evidence, well, then let's see it!

And nobody thought of saying "Hey, can you get ready to report the result of a little surprise we have for ISIS"? You really are trying too hard to keep your untenable position alive.
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#64
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
(April 15, 2017 at 3:49 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 15, 2017 at 3:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: If you believe them; NATO did the exact same propaganda during the War in Yugoslavia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombi...#Aftermath

How do the Afghan authorities even know any of this?  Have they now gone into the region where ISIS allegedly is (or, was)?  Use a little more skepticism; that way, you don't deceive yourself from nonsense.  If they have physical evidence, well, then let's see it!

And nobody thought of saying "Hey, can you get ready to report the result of a little surprise we have for ISIS"? You really are trying too hard to keep your untenable position alive.

What is my untenable position?  That ISIS went largely unscathed by this most recent attack?  If ISIS is now rendered impotent where the MOAB hit, why aren't the Afghan forces now occupying the area?  My whole point with this OP is that this "attack" seems like another stunt on the part of The Donald to prop-up what is a failed Presidency.  But, let's say that the Afghan government is right, and that one-eighth of the ISIS forces were killed; so what?  Those numbers will be quickly replaced, and soon.

Point is that The Donald is already showing his foreign policy to be an abject failure; he has accomplished nothing so far, and our best hope is that Trump & Friends do not lead our World to global thermonuclear war.  I hope that you are concerned; I am, and you should be, also!
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#65
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
(April 15, 2017 at 4:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote:   My whole point with this OP is that this "attack" seems like another stunt on the part of The Donald to prop-up what is a failed Presidency. 
Sure, in addition to that, the weapon is pretty damned lethal.  

Quote:But, let's say that the Afghan government is right, and that one-eighth of the ISIS forces were killed; so what?  Those numbers will be quickly replaced, and soon.
Right, sort of a definitional problem between conventional munitions and asymmetric warfare. A million dollar missile can be hella good at what it does, but if what you do is launch it at an individual or a paper target...well, someone better have a long wallet to win that war.

Quote:Point is that The Donald is already showing his foreign policy to be an abject failure; he has accomplished nothing so far, and our best hope is that Trump & Friends do not lead our World to global thermonuclear war.  I hope that you are concerned; I am, and you should be, also!
You're doubting the pres, not the bomb.  Take a number. Our president is a shitgibbon, but there's no reason to smear a perfectly good bomb with his filthy name. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the bomb would be a better president, and obviously it would look a hell of alot cooler in the oval office than the current occupant. Wink
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#66
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
(April 15, 2017 at 4:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(April 15, 2017 at 3:49 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And nobody thought of saying "Hey, can you get ready to report the result of a little surprise we have for ISIS"? You really are trying too hard to keep your untenable position alive.

What is my untenable position?  That ISIS went largely unscathed by this most recent attack?  If ISIS is now rendered impotent where the MOAB hit, why aren't the Afghan forces now occupying the area?  My whole point with this OP is that this "attack" seems like another stunt on the part of The Donald to prop-up what is a failed Presidency.  But, let's say that the Afghan government is right, and that one-eighth of the ISIS forces were killed; so what?  Those numbers will be quickly replaced, and soon.

Point is that The Donald is already showing his foreign policy to be an abject failure; he has accomplished nothing so far, and our best hope is that Trump & Friends do not lead our World to global thermonuclear war.  I hope that you are concerned; I am, and you should be, also!

Okay, so you don't have a position at all. My bad.
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#67
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
(April 15, 2017 at 5:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 15, 2017 at 4:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote: What is my untenable position?  That ISIS went largely unscathed by this most recent attack?  If ISIS is now rendered impotent where the MOAB hit, why aren't the Afghan forces now occupying the area?  My whole point with this OP is that this "attack" seems like another stunt on the part of The Donald to prop-up what is a failed Presidency.  But, let's say that the Afghan government is right, and that one-eighth of the ISIS forces were killed; so what?  Those numbers will be quickly replaced, and soon.

Point is that The Donald is already showing his foreign policy to be an abject failure; he has accomplished nothing so far, and our best hope is that Trump & Friends do not lead our World to global thermonuclear war.  I hope that you are concerned; I am, and you should be, also!

Okay, so you don't have a position at all. My bad.

My position is that the bomb did not kill anyone; I think that the Afghan government is lying.  Why?  Because ISIS is too smart not to dig tunnels too deep.
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#68
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
So you're a conspiracy theorist. Got it.
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#69
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
(April 15, 2017 at 5:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(April 15, 2017 at 4:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote:   My whole point with this OP is that this "attack" seems like another stunt on the part of The Donald to prop-up what is a failed Presidency. 
Sure, in addition to that, the weapon is pretty damned lethal.  

You could pick a person at random from the online whitepages who would almost certainly be a better President than Trump.  As for the bomb, yes, if you are standing under it, you're toast; 1,000 feet underground, I doubt that you would even notice or feel it.  I suspect that ISIS has the smarts to have dug their underground tunnels pretty deep with lots of connecting entrances/exits, probably, at least 60 feet down.  My bet is that they are completely safe; time will tell, of course.

(April 15, 2017 at 6:00 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: So you're a conspiracy theorist. Got it.

No, I just want evidence; a press release from a government who is in trouble is not evidence, at least not sufficient evidence for me.  If I am wrong, I will withdraw my claim, simple as that.  Right now, "things smell", no pun intended.
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#70
RE: I don't think that the MOAB killed anyone.
IS aren't smart. They're a bunch of primitive fucks with AKs and towels on their heads.
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