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"Senseless" used in reporting crimes.
#11
RE: "Senseless" used in reporting crimes.
(April 18, 2017 at 12:18 pm)dyresand Wrote: The shooter killed himself in Eerie Pennsylvania.
on  a side not a lot of people are actually killing themselves rather than going to jail
it makes you wonder how bad our criminal justice system is.

This cuts to economics and we DONT tax the top enough and we don't pay workers enough and we don't invest enough in worker pay. It really is as simply as the more you deny more, the more desperate humans become. The more you provide them stability, the less likely they do these things.

What he did was horrible. But if his upbringing had included support that was based on absolutes, because his "all or nothing attitude" while ended up in murder, seems no different to me than someone who doesn't commit murder who ends up rich merely exploiting others. If you act out by violence, someone or society in general sold you a script, and when you didn't meet up to that  you take it out on others. That can manifest in violence, but it can also be "sucks to be you" economic view where whom you harm others using lawyers and wealth.

I am not going to lose any sleep over his death, but I do worry the more the pay gap explodes the more desperate people like him we will see. 3rd world nations have much more violence than this. It is sad, because our GDP says prevention is affordable. 

Men especially are sold this bullshit attitude that we have to be super human, that we are nothing unless we are the leader. I am betting this guy was sold a utopia by family or society, and when he didn't meet what he thought was right, he took it out on others. I think most crime, regardless of motivations, stems from those around the perp family or society selling them an impossible idea. 

It still does not make it right, glad he is dead, but society needs to stop passing down their utopias to the next generation. Stopping him now does not constitute a long term plan for reducing the next desperate person from doing the same. At some point we have to invest in prevention.
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#12
RE: "Senseless" used in reporting crimes.
(April 18, 2017 at 3:43 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 18, 2017 at 12:18 pm)dyresand Wrote: The shooter killed himself in Eerie Pennsylvania.
on  a side not a lot of people are actually killing themselves rather than going to jail
it makes you wonder how bad our criminal justice system is.

This cuts to economics and we DONT tax the top enough and we don't pay workers enough and we don't invest enough in worker pay. It really is as simply as the more you deny more, the more desperate humans become. The more you provide them stability, the less likely they do these things.

What he did was horrible. But if his upbringing had included support that was based on absolutes, because his "all or nothing attitude" while ended up in murder, seems no different to me than someone who doesn't commit murder who ends up rich merely exploiting others. If you act out by violence, someone or society in general sold you a script, and when you didn't meet up to that  you take it out on others. That can manifest in violence, but it can also be "sucks to be you" economic view where whom you harm others using lawyers and wealth.

I am not going to lose any sleep over his death, but I do worry the more the pay gap explodes the more desperate people like him we will see. 3rd world nations have much more violence than this. It is sad, because our GDP says prevention is affordable. 

Men especially are sold this bullshit attitude that we have to be super human, that we are nothing unless we are the leader. I am betting this guy was sold a utopia by family or society, and when he didn't meet what he thought was right, he took it out on others. I think most crime, regardless of motivations, stems from those around the perp family or society selling them an impossible idea. 

It still does not make it right, glad he is dead, but society needs to stop passing down their utopias to the next generation. Stopping him now does not constitute a long term plan for reducing the next desperate person from doing the same. At some point we have to invest in prevention.

That's the problem with societal norms these days the truth of the manner is the typical guy now is
no longer a hard worker wanting to have a family or be married. Then you have both sides republican and democrat scratching their heads
why aren't men wanting to "fulfill" their lives get married work 2 to 3 jobs have kids and bust their ass.  Looking at that i don't want that 
if anything all i need is a job to support myself and my hobbies this is why stuff like men going their own way is popular and marriage and stuff like that
is in a sharp decline. We as men i agree is sold a shit deal with no benefits you have the societal version of a man child that is someone who plays video games
collects stuff and all in all is a loner truth be told that's not true at all.

secondly the wage gap itself is not sustainable it will be the downfall of our economy because the rich elites want more from and keep taking from the middle and lower classes.
This is why another thing the lower and middle class itself started making their own form of currency that can be converted over to USD in crypto currency. Eventually 
the economy will crash due to the unstable wage gap people need money to buy goods and or services the rich simply cannot understand what we normal people go through because they live in a bubble. They will feel it when the economy crashes again everyone will. 

All in all eve online has a better economy and they legalized drugs which boosted the games economy which is funny because.
In the games world  itself the drug war ended because it was too much money being wasted on stopping pirate players from moving drugs
around and combat boosters. Then well they made it legal and the economy was boosted, making combat boosters and drugs is illegal selling them
is perfectly legal.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today. 


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#13
RE: "Senseless" used in reporting crimes.
(April 18, 2017 at 4:10 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(April 18, 2017 at 3:43 pm)Brian37 Wrote: This cuts to economics and we DONT tax the top enough and we don't pay workers enough and we don't invest enough in worker pay. It really is as simply as the more you deny more, the more desperate humans become. The more you provide them stability, the less likely they do these things.

What he did was horrible. But if his upbringing had included support that was based on absolutes, because his "all or nothing attitude" while ended up in murder, seems no different to me than someone who doesn't commit murder who ends up rich merely exploiting others. If you act out by violence, someone or society in general sold you a script, and when you didn't meet up to that  you take it out on others. That can manifest in violence, but it can also be "sucks to be you" economic view where whom you harm others using lawyers and wealth.

I am not going to lose any sleep over his death, but I do worry the more the pay gap explodes the more desperate people like him we will see. 3rd world nations have much more violence than this. It is sad, because our GDP says prevention is affordable. 

Men especially are sold this bullshit attitude that we have to be super human, that we are nothing unless we are the leader. I am betting this guy was sold a utopia by family or society, and when he didn't meet what he thought was right, he took it out on others. I think most crime, regardless of motivations, stems from those around the perp family or society selling them an impossible idea. 

It still does not make it right, glad he is dead, but society needs to stop passing down their utopias to the next generation. Stopping him now does not constitute a long term plan for reducing the next desperate person from doing the same. At some point we have to invest in prevention.

That's the problem with societal norms these days the truth of the manner is the typical guy now is
no longer a hard worker wanting to have a family or be married. Then you have both sides republican and democrat scratching their heads
why aren't men wanting to "fulfill" their lives get married work 2 to 3 jobs have kids and bust their ass.  Looking at that i don't want that 
if anything all i need is a job to support myself and my hobbies this is why stuff like men going their own way is popular and marriage and stuff like that
is in a sharp decline. We as men i agree is sold a shit deal with no benefits you have the societal version of a man child that is someone who plays video games
collects stuff and all in all is a loner truth be told that's not true at all.

secondly the wage gap itself is not sustainable it will be the downfall of our economy because the rich elites want more from and keep taking from the middle and lower classes.
This is why another thing the lower and middle class itself started making their own form of currency that can be converted over to USD in crypto currency. Eventually 
the economy will crash due to the unstable wage gap people need money to buy goods and or services the rich simply cannot understand what we normal people go through because they live in a bubble. They will feel it when the economy crashes again everyone will. 

All in all eve online has a better economy and they legalized drugs which boosted the games economy which is funny because.
In the games world  itself the drug war ended because it was too much money being wasted on stopping pirate players from moving drugs
around and combat boosters. Then well they made it legal and the economy was boosted, making combat boosters and drugs is illegal selling them
is perfectly legal.

There has always been worldwide, an ignorance that men are better than women because of the average size difference, and testosterone. And when you look at the ratio of sperm to egg, females have fewer, so it is a lopsided ratio. BUT that does not mean females are less important, they are most certainly EQUALLY important because with our species it still takes both to get to reproduction.

There are smart men and dumb men, there are sensitive big guys and sensitive little guys. There are also bigger females and smaller females, more aggressive females and more sensitive females. What matters in evolution isn't roles, what matters is that it works regardless. Men worldwide still far too widely think brawn is an end all, but brains and nurture matter equally. If " I am a bad ass, and I am a solution to humanity's problems" was always a solution, then Hitler would have been right. 

Women are equal to men, we simply have different attributes but our species would not be here without either.
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#14
RE: "Senseless" used in reporting crimes.
(April 18, 2017 at 4:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 18, 2017 at 4:10 pm)dyresand Wrote: That's the problem with societal norms these days the truth of the manner is the typical guy now is
no longer a hard worker wanting to have a family or be married. Then you have both sides republican and democrat scratching their heads
why aren't men wanting to "fulfill" their lives get married work 2 to 3 jobs have kids and bust their ass.  Looking at that i don't want that 
if anything all i need is a job to support myself and my hobbies this is why stuff like men going their own way is popular and marriage and stuff like that
is in a sharp decline. We as men i agree is sold a shit deal with no benefits you have the societal version of a man child that is someone who plays video games
collects stuff and all in all is a loner truth be told that's not true at all.

secondly the wage gap itself is not sustainable it will be the downfall of our economy because the rich elites want more from and keep taking from the middle and lower classes.
This is why another thing the lower and middle class itself started making their own form of currency that can be converted over to USD in crypto currency. Eventually 
the economy will crash due to the unstable wage gap people need money to buy goods and or services the rich simply cannot understand what we normal people go through because they live in a bubble. They will feel it when the economy crashes again everyone will. 

All in all eve online has a better economy and they legalized drugs which boosted the games economy which is funny because.
In the games world  itself the drug war ended because it was too much money being wasted on stopping pirate players from moving drugs
around and combat boosters. Then well they made it legal and the economy was boosted, making combat boosters and drugs is illegal selling them
is perfectly legal.

There has always been worldwide, an ignorance that men are better than women because of the average size difference, and testosterone. And when you look at the ratio of sperm to egg, females have fewer, so it is a lopsided ratio. BUT that does not mean females are less important, they are most certainly EQUALLY important because with our species it still takes both to get to reproduction.

There are smart men and dumb men, there are sensitive big guys and sensitive little guys. There are also bigger females and smaller females, more aggressive females and more sensitive females. What matters in evolution isn't roles, what matters is that it works regardless. Men worldwide still far too widely think brawn is an end all, but brains and nurture matter equally. If " I am a bad ass, and I am a solution to humanity's problems" was always a solution, then Hitler would have been right. 

Women are equal to men, we simply have different attributes but our species would not be here without either.

I agree then people love to point out even in the media the wage gap.. in reality it looks like that because women are not in Stem fields and i agree women and men are 
equals. Then there is the society point of view of equality which is lopsided out of men's favor going to the woman. All in all the reason why there is less marriage these days is because all one as too look at is a old experiment what happens to population growth in mice. If the population gets too high you have less more woman who are more aggressive men who are less and less interested in relation ships which looking at millennials and Generation Z which is a real time case you can observe. So all in all the rate of human growth as it stands is going be heavily statically speaking lowered by a good fraction. In fact statically speaking the birth rate in 2015 dropped to historical lows because Millennials don't want kids. But yeah females are important so are males but our society norms need to change for own good.
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