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Even if Climate Change was not real...
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Even if Climate Change was not real...
What is so wrong with trying to maintain a clean, healthy environment? Oh wait, I forgot! Republicans are in bed with oil. Or I guess caring about the environment isn't manly I guess.
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RE: Even if Climate Change was not real...
(April 18, 2017 at 3:55 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: What is so wrong with trying to maintain a clean, healthy environment? Oh wait, I forgot! Republicans are in bed with oil. Or I guess caring about the environment isn't manly I guess.

One of my favorite conservative stupidities involves the straw man that environmentalists are crazy prophets of doom and want us all to go back to the horse and buggy.
They then argue that if anything at all is done to deal with global warming it will lead to... THE COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE GLOBAL ECONOMY!! OOOOOHHHH
If god was real he wouldn't need middle men to explain his wants or do his bidding.
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RE: Even if Climate Change was not real...
(April 18, 2017 at 4:08 pm)Crunchy Wrote:
(April 18, 2017 at 3:55 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: What is so wrong with trying to maintain a clean, healthy environment? Oh wait, I forgot! Republicans are in bed with oil. Or I guess caring about the environment isn't manly I guess.

One of my favorite conservative stupidities involves the straw man that environmentalists are crazy prophets of doom and want us all to go back to the horse and buggy.
They then argue that if anything at all is done to deal with global warming it will lead to... THE COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE GLOBAL ECONOMY!! OOOOOHHHH

I'm pretty sure the reality is the other way around, though. That the global economy will collapse if the environment goes haywire. Particularly stuff that's dependent on it like agriculture, fishing, livestock, whatever biosphere-dependent economy there exists also. Probably others, maybe tourism too.
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RE: Even if Climate Change was not real...
(April 18, 2017 at 4:12 pm)Sal Wrote:
(April 18, 2017 at 4:08 pm)Crunchy Wrote: One of my favorite conservative stupidities involves the straw man that environmentalists are crazy prophets of doom and want us all to go back to the horse and buggy.
They then argue that if anything at all is done to deal with global warming it will lead to... THE COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE GLOBAL ECONOMY!! OOOOOHHHH

I'm pretty sure the reality is the other way around, though. That the global economy will collapse if the environment goes haywire. Particularly stuff that's dependent on it like agriculture, fishing, livestock, whatever biosphere-dependent economy there exists also. Probably others, maybe tourism too.

There you go, taking the long view. You've got the think like an MBA - only next quarter's results matter, of course.
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RE: Even if Climate Change was not real...
(April 18, 2017 at 3:55 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: What is so wrong with trying to maintain a clean, healthy environment? Oh wait, I forgot! Republicans are in bed with oil. Or I guess caring about the environment isn't manly I guess.

These corporate assholes don't understand that short term profit will cost our species more long term. They don't want to see that they could make just as much money by doing the right thing, just like car companies once railed against seat belts only to create MORE factories to make those seat belts and ended up making money by selling them as a safety feature. Just like we no longer make rotary phones. 

The science is in, and even back in the 1890s you had scientists sounding the alarm about too much CO2. Neil's COSMOS series points that out in one of the episodes. But even since then, our computer tracking of past 100 years of millions of points of worldwide data and weather tracking worldwide is saying WE are making the atmosphere hyper active and that will cause more frequent storms of all kinds, more extreme swings between hot and cold, more ice cap melting less freezing.

These asshole oil companies CEOs really think they own the planet, but if we don't stop our trend eventually we will end up in a nuclear war because of weather destroying lives causing more political unrest. If we end up having a nuclear war all that oil wont mean shit, even the rich will end up fighting over resources like cave men.

I love my species ability to problem solve, but far too many greedy people worldwide don't understand that the planet is not a pet you tame, but a house you live in.
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