Fuck you Joe Walsh

[dyresand]

The most ridiculous thing about this quote to me is the fact that the only reason insurance works is due to the fact that it forces people to pay for other people's healthcare.

If you paid more in premiums and healthcare expenses in a year than you actually got back in covered costs, then you paid for someone else's healthcare.

Likewise, if your covered costs exceeded what you paid in premiums and healthcare expenses, someone else paid for your healthcare.

The fact that the health insurance industry is profitable relies on the fact that the are more people in the former group than there are in the latter. A lot more.

What people like Joe Walsh actually hate is when people are covered but don't (i.e. can't) pay into the same system. These kind of people never look at the bigger picture, which is that denying people coverage keeps them unhealthy, and results in them only being able to seek healthcare in an emergency situation, with the hospitals footing most of the bill (because if you can't afford insurance you probably can't afford to pay back medical debt either). This alone forces healthcare costs up. In addition, if you keep poor people healthy by providing them with healthcare, they will be more capable to work, and perhaps eventually earn enough to contribute back to the system which they were able to use, which will benefit everyone, including the next generation of the poor.

Tibs.. rich people are  so far up their own asses about this subject they don't look at the fact that a healthly working class earns them more money.
They have been for the longest time been punching down and they will continue to due so in reality with them punching down so much in the end it causes a global economic crash because well wealth inequality and everything associated with the consequences. I mean like the last crash were going to have that again because of deregulation thanks to orange man.
America is not the happiest country in the world were on the list for the depressed we have a great medical system our insurance is shit. People need good cheap insurance id rather get my insurances through the state through the Government even if that means i pay higher taxes i don't care. It works out for the government they get more of my money they can buy all the shit they want and throw it into the military industrial complex i wouldn't care as long as everyone has health insurance.

Private  insurance in how it exists now shouldn't  exist because well lets be honest they are more for profit gain than to actually help people.

[Shell B]

I can. I have a very strange friend who is conservative. I'm not sure what his stance is on pre-existing conditions, but I think when confronted with it, he would either say insurance should cover it or say we need to account for it somehow. I doubt he'd outright say fuck them.

Shits like Walsh don't say "fuck them" either.  They say they will have "access" to insurance coverage.... if they are rich enough to be able to afford the premiums.  The last part is "tacit."

Yeah, this guy is bizarre. He's like compassionate, gun crazy and a little up Trump's ass. It's this bizarre mix. He's a huge LGBT supporter and I'm not sure he cares much about abortion. I'm honestly not sure if he isn't just trolling me.

[Brian37]

Shits like Walsh don't say "fuck them" either.  They say they will have "access" to insurance coverage.... if they are rich enough to be able to afford the premiums.  The last part is "tacit."

Yeah, this guy is bizarre. He's like compassionate, gun crazy and a little up Trump's ass. It's this bizarre mix. He's a huge LGBT supporter and I'm not sure he cares much about abortion. I'm honestly not sure if he isn't just trolling me.

My mom was a mostly lifetime voting republican. My friend John who lives in Oklahoma whom will be visiting me in June, also has the same issues with his own family. You ask them about certain issues, without mentioning party and they will agree with you up until you mention party. 

I love my mom deeply as everyone here may know. 

She was for gay marriage.
She was for higher pay for workers.
She was for affordable health care.
She hated the idea of guns in schools.

Bernie was the first time I knew of where she didn't vote republican. That party has for 40 years have been masters at getting people to vote against their own self interests. I really do believe, knowing lots of todays republicans are still old men who were young supporters of Nixon and I think a lot of their stubbornness and obstruction is modeled off that bitterness. The good thing is that those politicians are getting old. I am just sorry that those assholes sold their shit to my mom.

[Silver]

The most ridiculous thing about this quote to me is the fact that the only reason insurance works is due to the fact that it forces people to pay for other people's healthcare.

If you paid more in premiums and healthcare expenses in a year than you actually got back in covered costs, then you paid for someone else's healthcare.

Likewise, if your covered costs exceeded what you paid in premiums and healthcare expenses, someone else paid for your healthcare.

The fact that the health insurance industry is profitable relies on the fact that the are more people in the former group than there are in the latter. A lot more.

What people like Joe Walsh actually hate is when people are covered but don't (i.e. can't) pay into the same system. These kind of people never look at the bigger picture, which is that denying people coverage keeps them unhealthy, and results in them only being able to seek healthcare in an emergency situation, with the hospitals footing most of the bill (because if you can't afford insurance you probably can't afford to pay back medical debt either). This alone forces healthcare costs up. In addition, if you keep poor people healthy by providing them with healthcare, they will be more capable to work, and perhaps eventually earn enough to contribute back to the system which they were able to use, which will benefit everyone, including the next generation of the poor.

Or, without the long winded hoopla, we could just have universal health care.

The only reason we do not have that is due to the fact that greedy insurance companies would go out of business.

[The Valkyrie]

Remember that these are the people claiming to be True Christians ™.

[Silver]

Remember that these are the people claiming to be True Christians ™.

The only True Christian I ever met was one who seemed non-Christian in every aspect of his life until out of the blue he mentioned that he was a Christian.

[dyresand]

The most ridiculous thing about this quote to me is the fact that the only reason insurance works is due to the fact that it forces people to pay for other people's healthcare.

If you paid more in premiums and healthcare expenses in a year than you actually got back in covered costs, then you paid for someone else's healthcare.

Likewise, if your covered costs exceeded what you paid in premiums and healthcare expenses, someone else paid for your healthcare.

The fact that the health insurance industry is profitable relies on the fact that the are more people in the former group than there are in the latter. A lot more.

What people like Joe Walsh actually hate is when people are covered but don't (i.e. can't) pay into the same system. These kind of people never look at the bigger picture, which is that denying people coverage keeps them unhealthy, and results in them only being able to seek healthcare in an emergency situation, with the hospitals footing most of the bill (because if you can't afford insurance you probably can't afford to pay back medical debt either). This alone forces healthcare costs up. In addition, if you keep poor people healthy by providing them with healthcare, they will be more capable to work, and perhaps eventually earn enough to contribute back to the system which they were able to use, which will benefit everyone, including the next generation of the poor.

Or, without the long winded hoopla, we could just have universal health care.

The only reason we do not have that is due to the fact that greedy insurance companies would go out of business.

And pieces of shit like her need to get fucking primaried out of power 



its sacks of  shit like her that get paid.. to say no we can have it she met with insurance companies.
2018 she won't get my vote a good bit of people wont.

[Rev. Rye]

Phew. I thought it was the other Joe Walsh.

It's shit like this that makes me seriously wonder whether the Good Joe Walsh can sue Former Congressman Joe Walsh, for either libel or something else. Something so we don't have to confuse the incendiary guitarist with the incendiary Teabagger. Probably not likely, but one seriously has to wonder.

[Minimalist]

The most ridiculous thing about this quote to me is the fact that the only reason insurance works is due to the fact that it forces people to pay for other people's healthcare.

If you paid more in premiums and healthcare expenses in a year than you actually got back in covered costs, then you paid for someone else's healthcare.

Likewise, if your covered costs exceeded what you paid in premiums and healthcare expenses, someone else paid for your healthcare.

The fact that the health insurance industry is profitable relies on the fact that the are more people in the former group than there are in the latter. A lot more.

What people like Joe Walsh actually hate is when people are covered but don't (i.e. can't) pay into the same system. These kind of people never look at the bigger picture, which is that denying people coverage keeps them unhealthy, and results in them only being able to seek healthcare in an emergency situation, with the hospitals footing most of the bill (because if you can't afford insurance you probably can't afford to pay back medical debt either). This alone forces healthcare costs up. In addition, if you keep poor people healthy by providing them with healthcare, they will be more capable to work, and perhaps eventually earn enough to contribute back to the system which they were able to use, which will benefit everyone, including the next generation of the poor.

So you've been here for what, a year or so and you already understand the problem better than slightly more than half of our so-called lawmakers.

[Jackalope]

So you've been here for what, a year or so and you already understand the problem better than slightly more than half of our so-called lawmakers.

I'm pretty sure they understand it, they just don't give a fuck.