Can prayer change God's perfect plan?

[Crossless2.0]

Is God's plan really perfect if he had to drown most of the fucking population?

Thanks, Obama.

[Minimalist]

You want to get the opinion of people with strong faith? I think you came to the wrong site for that.

If you want my opinion, though, prayer doesn't seem to have any effect.

Oh I believed the site would have persons with faith.

Then what is the religion section for?

The Admins decided that "Religion Section" was more polite than calling it "the Asylum."

Anyway, George Carlin answered your question years ago.

[Drich]

New here and confused about this.


I saw a meme today, with the question in title. This is a toughie. 

I am a person of strong faith, and want others with strong faith to chime in on this. Help!!!

Two things.

1)Prayer is always answered in the positive by God.

2) Most of what 'we' call prayer isn't. It's call petitioning God.

To pray is found in luke 11 forward. (The Lord's prayer) this prayer is about acknowledging God and asking God to change our will to His will. To make us pleasing to Him. (among other things.) That is the only example of prayer we have. All else is to petition God according to Jesus and Paul.

So I guess what your asking is does God answer petitions. The answer is yes so long as it does not lead you to sin or corrupt the nature of God as described in the bible.(makes you paint God in a wrong way)

In my own personal experience I know it seems like I can literally ask for anything, and I can get what I want (not free of cost or consequence) Which is the reason I ask for little. Because I understand the cost "things" we want.

Better to be poor and content than wealthy and obligated to care for what you have.

[LastPoet]

To answer the OP, your god is a figment of your imagination indoctrinated since your youngest years. Hence, so is its perfect plan. As to praying, if you pray to a jar of milk, you will get the same response, yes, no, wait. If your prayer was answered, praise the jar of milk, if not, then the jar of milk thinks of you unworthy. If the prayer is answered long after it was needed, you'd just had to wait, because of the plan.

Hope that helps. It should, but I hold no faith in your willingness to think about what I've said.

[Valyza1]

To answer the OP, your god is a figment of your imagination indoctrinated since your youngest years. Hence, so is its perfect plan. As to praying, if you pray to a jar of milk, you will get the same response, yes, no, wait. If your prayer was answered, praise the jar of milk, if not, then the jar of milk thinks of you unworthy. If the prayer is answered long after it was needed, you'd just had to wait, because of the plan.

Hope that helps. It should, but I hold no faith in your willingness to think about what I've said.

Probably because what you said was condescending? Just a guess.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I believe God wants us to pray, and also to do something towards protecting earth.

I think there are better options than something that is tantamount to telling yourself you hope things will be ok but doing nothing else about it.

[LastPoet]

To answer the OP, your god is a figment of your imagination indoctrinated since your youngest years. Hence, so is its perfect plan. As to praying, if you pray to a jar of milk, you will get the same response, yes, no, wait. If your prayer was answered, praise the jar of milk, if not, then the jar of milk thinks of you unworthy. If the prayer is answered long after it was needed, you'd just had to wait, because of the plan.

Hope that helps. It should, but I hold no faith in your willingness to think about what I've said.

Probably because what you said was condescending?  Just a guess.  

Huh? What you are saying is that I need to sugar coat it more? Sad to believers, reality is indeed... condescending as you say.

[Valyza1]

Probably because what you said was condescending?  Just a guess.  

Huh? What you are saying is that I need to sugar coat it more? Sad to believers, reality is indeed... condescending as you say.

Sugar coat what? You're acting as if it's a proven fact that your point of view is correct and any other point of view is incorrect. That's not exactly inviting reflection on the part of the person you're speaking to, is it?

[LastPoet]

Huh? What you are saying is that I need to sugar coat it more? Sad to believers, reality is indeed... condescending as you say.

Sugar coat what?  You're acting as if it's a proven fact that your point of view is correct and any other point of view is incorrect.  That's not exactly inviting reflection on the part of the person you're speaking to, is it?

If you consider reality a point of view, then try banging your head on a wall to tell me that I in your point view, it doesn't hurt. The OP asked, I answered. Reflect on that. I for one am not here to convince anyone.

[brewer]

Is God's plan really perfect if he had to drown most of the fucking population?

It meant to do that from the very beginning (nudge nudge wink wink).

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Two things.

1)Prayer is always answered in the positive by God.

2) Most of what 'we' call prayer isn't. It's call petitioning God.

To pray is found in luke 11 forward. (The Lord's prayer) this prayer is about acknowledging God and asking God to change our will to His will. To make us pleasing to Him. (among other things.) That is the only example of prayer we have. All else is to petition God according to Jesus and Paul.

So I guess what your asking is does God answer petitions. The answer is yes so long as it does not lead you to sin or corrupt the nature of God as described in the bible.(makes you paint God in a wrong way)

In my own personal experience I know it seems like I can literally ask for anything, and I can get what I want (not free of cost or consequence) Which is the reason I ask for little. Because I understand the cost "things" we want.

Better to be poor and content than wealthy and obligated to care for what you have.

bold mine

False assertion. Asking for daily bread is a petition.

Move along.