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Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
#61
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
(May 16, 2017 at 1:49 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(May 15, 2017 at 6:55 pm)InteresedUser Wrote: Yes, Muhammad was a pedophile and so are atheists. Atheists are pedophiles because we observe in nature societies that practice this and criminals against society do it. They think they are right. There is only the natural explanation in atheistic naturalism. But who is to say it is bad since it is simply part of nature. Whereas in Christianity it is bad each and every time under any circumstances. Objective truth supersedes your changing feelings why this week you think pedophilia is good or bad.

"Despise not one of these little ones" (Matt. 18.10).

"Without natural affection" (Rom. 1.31).

"Lovers of their own selves, covetous" (2 Tim. 3.2).

"Lusts of the flesh" (Gal. 5.16).

"Fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness" (Gal. 5.19).

There is an actually a way of telling who is more likely to be a paedophile. Populations in prison serving time for that crime versus the faith they assert, would actually give you a figure to work on.

So you could conceivably find out just how wrong you are.

prick.

There are no Christian pedophiles, but lots of atheist pedophiles. Counting them in prison doesn't change that fact.

Understand the point. In atheism all there is is nature. Nature produces pedophilia. Since your world-view of naturalism leads to pedophilia and pedophilia is always wrong then atheism is wrong. Find another faith that is evidentially proven to be true like Christianity.
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#62
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
Yeah...that must be a troll right?
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#63
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
(May 16, 2017 at 3:25 pm)InteresedUser Wrote: There are no Christian pedophiles, but lots of atheist pedophiles.

I'm sorry that you were dropped on your head too many times as a baby.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#64
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
Sad there is no serious discussion here.
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#65
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
After that post at the top of the page, you really want 'serious discussion'? That's a post that I expect would embarrass most theists.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#66
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
(May 16, 2017 at 3:25 pm)InteresedUser Wrote:
(May 16, 2017 at 1:49 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: There is an actually a way of telling who is more likely to be a paedophile. Populations in prison serving time for that crime versus the faith they assert, would actually give you a figure to work on.

So you could conceivably find out just how wrong you are.

prick.

There are no Christian pedophiles, but lots of atheist pedophiles. Counting them in prison doesn't change that fact.

Understand the point. In atheism all there is is nature. Nature produces pedophilia. Since your world-view of naturalism leads to pedophilia and pedophilia is always wrong then atheism is wrong. Find another faith that is evidentially proven to be true like Christianity.

You know, lying for jesus is still lying, right?

And lying does not change the facts.

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#67
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
(May 16, 2017 at 3:36 pm)InteresedUser Wrote: Sad there is no serious discussion here.

Indeed. Hundreds of thousands of posts on a myriad of topics, and yet here you are, the epitome of rational and intelligent discourse, choosing our home to 'discuss' .  Dodgy
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#68
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
(May 16, 2017 at 3:36 pm)InteresedUser Wrote: Sad there is no serious discussion here.

There are pedophiles that identify as christians (catholic priests are a good example). Are they not christians up until the point of the act? If they repent can they be christians after the fact?

I seriously want to discuss your fixation with pedophilia. You dodged my previous post. 

Why do you think you have this one particular obsession? You're willing to ignore all of the other points people have made and continue only to discuss pedophilia. 

Do discussions about pedophilia give you any type of satisfaction?

Has a pedophilia event ever been close to you?

Other than atheist and muslim, when you picture a pedophiliac in your mind what do you see? How would you describe them?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#69
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
(May 14, 2017 at 3:35 pm)InteresedUser Wrote: Whereas a non-subjective objective law transcends and would never allow pedophilia under any circumstances.

Well considering that your holy book has your god demand that his chosen people rape little kiddies, by your own definition your chosen religion is immoral and evil.

Better get back to the drawing board christard.
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#70
RE: Subjective Morals and Societal Whims
(May 16, 2017 at 3:25 pm)InteresedUser Wrote: There are no Christian pedophiles, but lots of atheist pedophiles. Counting them in prison doesn't change that fact.

Sounds like a 'no true Scotsman' fallacy to me.

Quote:Understand the point. In atheism all there is is nature. Nature produces pedophilia. Since your world-view of naturalism leads to pedophilia and pedophilia is always wrong then atheism is wrong. Find another faith that is evidentially proven to be true like Christianity.

Wow.

You might have reached a new record in incoherency on this forum. Congratulations.

Atheism is simply not being convinced that gods exist. There are atheists that believe in all sorts of supernatural woo.

You seem to be confusing atheism with philosophical naturalism. I don't think the majority of atheists are philosophical naturalists.

Atheism is not a worldview. Not sure why so many theists think it is. Atheism is a response to a single claim. Theists claim gods exist, atheist simply are unconvinced by that claim. It is a claim that has yet to meet its burden of proof.

The phrase 'atheism is wrong' does not make any sense. Atheism is not the claim that gods don't exist (although some atheists may have this position). It is the disbelief that gods do exist. A subtle sounding difference, but not subtle in meaning.

Quote: Find another faith that is evidentially proven to be true like Christianity.

Not even close.

Please open another thread with your demonstrable and falsifiable evidence, and valid/sound logic to support your claim.

Oh, and don't think it has gone unnoticed that you completely ignored my post #48 on this thread stating that Mary was no more than 14 years old (possibly younger) when she gave birth to Jesus.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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