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RE: Trump visited Saudi Israelia.
May 23, 2017 at 6:14 am
(May 22, 2017 at 7:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (May 20, 2017 at 6:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You are not getting it.
"They are not" is a false argument regardless of country.
If you don't like, and I agree, America claiming to be a "Christian Nation" it still remains the powers that be use religion as a form of political appeal and or control. Iran does it, Israel does it China does it, all nations do it.
Saudi Arabia is politically dominated by Sunnis. Iran is Politically dominated by Shiites. Israel is politically dominated by Jews. China is politically dominated by Buddhists.
The worst part is all those competing factions dont want to face that the planet and universe are far older and don't give a shit about the fantasies humans make up.
But I do agree, Trump and the GOP are too fucking stupid to see he is an easy mark. Trump thought he could play a political Scar Face or Dirty Harry hero, but he is in over his head.
Believe me; Trump gets more respect from the Saudi officials than other Muslims.
The Saudi officials threw Trump a welcoming that worth a few billion
Do you realize what 110 billion dollars mean; Brian?
Is there a "real enemy", that pays all of that in a mere arms deal?
Is there a "real enemy" that receive their full arsenal of weaponry from their foes; paying billions for it?
Saudi Arabia is not Islamic; it's a bunker that Britain gave up to America before the discovery of oil.
They welcomed Trump with a golden medal!
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Yemen will get chopped into two just like Sudan.
Soon enough the Middle East's map will differ a lot. Change already began in Syria, Sudan and Yemen.
Saudi Arabia is just a tool; just like Trump.
If it were not for the Allah vs Yahweh bullshit in my perfect world I'd defund BOTH Saudi Arabia and Israel. Along with far too much of the planet friend and foe alike love investing in war.
I agree Trump is a tool, he is too stupid to know that Israel is part of the Middle East.
But no dude, sorry, Saudi Arabia is a majority Islam, just like Israel is a majority Jewish, just like China is a majority Buddhist and just like India is a majority Hindu and America is a majority Christian.. I know you honestly wish your part of the world didn't produce such theocracies and oppression, and I am sure you wish people would not pick up the Koran and or Hadiths and justify such oppression and violence, but that really is no different than when some right wing asshole picks up the bible, justifies harming Muslims or Jews. Look up "The Lord's Resistance Army", that is a violent Christian sect in Africa.
It does piss me off that we are giving Saudi Arabia 110billion dollars while Trump and GOP are threatening to gut 800 bilion in Medicaid here over a decade.
If you want to make it about money, I agree, but that is what all religions do, the powers in the east and west use it to divide their populations and divide nations. But it still remains the west has far more freedom for it's citizens as imperfect as we are, than Saudi Arabia. I fear for your safety every day.
All religions in our species ENTIRE history have produced rival sub sects and caused divisions to greater or lesser degrees and the wealth of a given time has found that it is very easy to convince their populations to support them by using it. The only difference between the east and the west is that the west has done a better job keeping religion from becoming a monopoly. That is not to say the west's history is squeaky clean, but just that we have had a longer period of protecting pluralism. You would not know that looking at today's GOP and the rise of Mien Drumpf.
I want Trump out of office as soon as possible. But no, your ruling family is still a dictatorship and still uses religion to control the masses regardless.
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RE: Trump visited Saudi Israelia.
May 23, 2017 at 11:52 am
(May 22, 2017 at 7:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (May 20, 2017 at 6:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You are not getting it.
"They are not" is a false argument regardless of country.
If you don't like, and I agree, America claiming to be a "Christian Nation" it still remains the powers that be use religion as a form of political appeal and or control. Iran does it, Israel does it China does it, all nations do it.
Saudi Arabia is politically dominated by Sunnis. Iran is Politically dominated by Shiites. Israel is politically dominated by Jews. China is politically dominated by Buddhists.
The worst part is all those competing factions dont want to face that the planet and universe are far older and don't give a shit about the fantasies humans make up.
But I do agree, Trump and the GOP are too fucking stupid to see he is an easy mark. Trump thought he could play a political Scar Face or Dirty Harry hero, but he is in over his head.
Believe me; Trump gets more respect from the Saudi officials than other Muslims.
The Saudi officials threw Trump a welcoming that worth a few billion
Do you realize what 110 billion dollars mean; Brian?
Is there a "real enemy", that pays all of that in a mere arms deal?
Is there a "real enemy" that receive their full arsenal of weaponry from their foes; paying billions for it?
Saudi Arabia is not Islamic; it's a bunker that Britain gave up to America before the discovery of oil.
They welcomed Trump with a golden medal!
Industrial Lad
Yemen will get chopped into two just like Sudan.
Soon enough the Middle East's map will differ a lot. Change already began in Syria, Sudan and Yemen.
Saudi Arabia is just a tool; just like Trump. Atlas, I think the powers that be here want a state in Syria that's servile to the U.S. I don't think that will happen.
I don't know that much about Yemen in detail but I'm concerned by the humanitarian crisis.
Trump is definitely a tool. The establishment just has to pat him on the back and take him out for ice cream and he'll sign anything they want. Next will be net neutrality. What a phony.
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RE: Trump visited Saudi Israelia.
May 24, 2017 at 3:26 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2017 at 3:27 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 20, 2017 at 6:08 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Let's count.
1-Having a sword under the name of God in their flag; in total demolition of this verse:
2-Having a king who decides everything. Which is a total demolition of this verse:
3-Allowing the "Marines" to protect their asses in every war they have:
edited for numbered points.
You're just describing ways that they are different from you and your beliefs about what the quran says...........
Nothing above is even remotely un-islamic? This is a fight that you should be picking with magic book, not the Saudis.
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RE: Trump visited Saudi Israelia.
January 11, 2019 at 1:00 pm
Do you believe me, now?
Ain't Saudi Arabia an American bunker, protected and kept safe from revolts by every American administration, and the last was Trump's ?
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