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I am an atheist that despises atheists
#31
RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
Your views are theism, and you are an atheist?

From the reasonings you've provided for despising atheists, the only specific one seems to be about gays, which in fact has nothing to do with atheism. Now can you please say why that would be amoral according to you?
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#32
RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
(May 27, 2017 at 3:53 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Your views are theism, and you are an atheist?

From the reasonings you've provided for despising atheists, the only specific one seems to be about gays, which in fact has nothing to do with atheism. Now can you please say why that would be amoral according to you?

Probably because Islam has fried his brain beyond repair...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#33
RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
(May 26, 2017 at 9:06 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: I find atheism as of now detrimental to society because of the void it creates that inevitably gets filled by something ludicrous like social progressivism. I see atheists arguing for "equal-marriage" and transgender rights while I sit back in disbelief questioning how you can belief in biological evolution and contradict your opinions with homosexuality and its place in society. I can only wonder if people are capable of distinguishing a fetish from sexual normalcy.

I see atheists getting duped by so many things in the social realm while politicising things that are either contradictory or irrational. 


Hi there. You don't seem very friendly so I'll forego the welcome wagon, hope you don't mind! 
Here's some interesting facts that you might want to review before opening your mouth again.

If you just uh.. type in "homosexuality in nature", you'll find case studies from scientists of different backgrounds, fields of studies, nationalities, origins, races, etc. That have been documented and observed in our current biological sphere, yes including apes, of homosexuality.


Quote:http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx
http://www.livescience.com/1125-homosexu...loset.html
[size=large][3] Bruce Bagemihl, Biological Exuberance: Animal 
Homosexuality and Natural Diversity, St. Martin's Press, 1999; ISBN 978-0312253776


[4] Harrold, Max (1999-02-16). "Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity". The Advocate, reprinted in Highbeam Encyclopedia. Retrieved 2007-09-10.

"One fundamental premise in social debates has been that homosexuality is unnatural. This premise is wrong. Homosexuality is both common and highly essential in the lives of a number of species," explains Petter Boeckman, who is
the academic advisor for the "Against Nature's Order?" exhibition at the University of Oslo. A first-ever museum display, "Against Nature?," which opened last month at the University of Oslo's Natural History Museum in
Norway, presents 51 species of animals exhibiting homosexuality.


"I think to some extent people don't think it's important because we went through all this time period in sociobiology where everything had to be tied to reproduction and reproductive success. If it doesn't have [something to do] with reproduction it's not important. You can make up all kinds of stories: Oh it's for dominance, it's for this, it's for that, but when it comes down to the bottom I think it's just for sexual pleasure," said Linda Wolfe, who heads the Department of Anthropology at East Carolina University. 

Conversely, some argue that homosexual sex could have a bigger natural cause than just pure ecstasy: namely evolutionary benefits.

Copulation could be used for alliance and protection among animals of the same sex. In situations when a species is mostly bisexual, homosexual relationships allow an animal to join a pack.

"In bonobos for instance, strict heterosexual individuals would not be able to make friends in the flock and thus never be able to breed,"Bockman told LiveScience. "In some bird species that bond for life, homosexual pairs raise young. If they are females, a male may fertilize their eggs. If they are males, a solitary female may mate with them and deposit her eggs in their nest."


Homosexuality is also quite common among dolphins and killer whales. The pairing of males and females is fleeting, while between males, a pair can stay together for years. Homosexual sex between different species is not unusual either. Meetings between different dolphin species can be quite violent, but the tension is often broken by a "sex orgy".

Homosexuality is a social phenomenon and is most widespread among animals with a complex herd life.

Among the apes it is the females that create the continuity within the group. The social network is maintained not only by sharing food and the child rearing, but also by having sex. Among many of the female apes the sex organs swell up. So they rub their abdomens against each other," explains Petter Bockman and points out that animals have sex because they have the desire to, just like we humans.


Homosexual behaviour has been observed in 1,500 animal species.

"We're talking about everything from mammals to crabs and worms. The actual number is of course much higher. Among some animals homosexual behaviour is rare, some having sex with the same gender only a part of their life, while other animals, such as the dwarf chimpanzee, homosexuality is practiced throughout their lives."


Animals that live a completely homosexual life can also be found. This occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. Four to five percent of the couples are homosexual. Single females will lay eggs in a homosexual pair's nest. It has been observced that the homosexual couple are often better at raising the young than heterosexual couples.

When you see a colony of black-headed gulls, you can be sure that almost every tenth pair is lesbian. The females have no problems with being impregnated, although, according to Petter Boeckman they cannot be defined as bisexual.

"If a female has sex with a male one time, but thousands of times with another female, is she bisexual or homosexual? This is the same way to have children is not unknown among homosexual people."


It has been observed that the homosexual couple are often better at raising the young than heterosexual couples.

Homosexuality is a social phenomenon and is most widespread among animals with a complex herd life.


500 Most Well Documented Species Who Engage in Homosexuality

African Buffalo[21]
African Elephant[22]
Agile Wallaby[23]
Amazon River Dolphin(Boto)[19]
American Bison[21][24]
Antelope[25]
Asian Elephant[22]
Asiatic Lion[26]
Asiatic Mouflon[27]
Atlantic Spotted Dolphin[19]
Australian Sea Lion[28]
Barasingha[29]
Barbary Sheep[30]
Beluga[19]
Bharal[31]
Bighorn Sheep[30]
Black Bear[32]
Blackbuck[33]
Black-footed Rock Wallaby[23]
Black-tailed Deer[29]
Bonnet Macaque[14]
Bonobo[34][35][36]
Bottlenose Dolphin[19][37]
Bowhead Whale[19]
Brazilian Guinea Pig[38]
Bridled Dolphin[19]
Brown Bear[32]
Brown Capuchin[39]
Brown Long-eared Bat[40]
Brown Rat[41]
Buffalo[30]
Caribou[42]
Cat (domestic)[43]
Cattle (domestic)[44]
Cheetah[26]
Collared Peccary[45]
Commerson's Dolphin[19]
Common Brushtail Possum[46]
Common Chimpanzee[47]
Common Dolphin[19]
Common Marmoset[39]
Common Pipistrelle[48]
Common Raccoon[49]
Common Tree Shrew[50]
Cotton-top Tamarin[51]
Crab-eating Macaque[14]
Crested Black Macaque[14]
Dall's Sheep[30]
Daubenton's Bat[40]
Dog (domestic)[52]
Donkey
Doria's Tree Kangaroo[23]
Dugong[53]
Dwarf Cavy[38]
Dwarf Mongoose[54]
Eastern Cottontail Rabbit[41]
Eastern Grey Kangaroo[23]
Elk[29]
Euro (a subspecies of wallaroo)[23]
European Bison[21]
Fallow Deer[29]
False Killer Whale[19]
Fat-tailed Dunnart[55]
Fin Whale[19]
Fox[56]
Gazelle[25]
Gelada Baboon[57]
Giraffe[4][25][58]
Goat (Domestic)[30]
Golden Monkey[59]
Gorilla[60]
Grant's Gazelle[25]
Grey-headed Flying Fox[40]
Grey Seal[28]
Grey squirrel[61]
Grey Whale[19][20]
Grey Wolf[62]
Grizzly Bear[32]
Guinea Pig (Domestic)[38]
Hamadryas Baboon[57]
Hamster (Domestic)[38]
Hanuman Langur[63]
Harbor Porpoise[64]
Harbor Seal[28]
Himalayan Tahr[65]
Hoary Marmot[66]
Horse (domestic)[67]
Human (see Human sexual behavior)
Indian Fruit Bat[40]
Indian Muntjac[68]
Indian Rhinoceros[69]
Japanese Macaque[14]
Javelina[70]
Kangaroo Rat[41]
Killer Whale[19]
Koala[71]
Kob[15][72]
Larga Seal[28]
Least Chipmunk[61]
Lechwe[72]
Lesser Bushbaby[73]
Lion[26][74][75][76][77][78]
Lion-tailed Macaque[14]
Lion Tamarin[39]
Little Brown Bat[40]
Livingstone's Fruit Bat[40]
Long-eared Hedgehog[79]
Long-footed Tree Shrew[50]
Macaque[80]
Markhor[81]
Marten[49]
Matschie's Tree Kangaroo[23]
Moco[82]
Mohol Galago[73]
Moor Macaque[14]
Moose[83]
Mountain Goat[30]
Mountain Tree Shrew[50]
Mountain Zebra[84]
Mouse (domestic)[85]
Moustached Tamarin[51]
Mule Deer[29]
Musk-ox[86]
Natterer's Bat[40]
New Zealand Sea Lion[28]
Nilgiri Langur[63]
Noctule[48]
North American Porcupine[87]
Northern Elephant Seal[28]
Northern Fur Seal[28]
Northern Quoll[55]
Olympic Marmot[88]
Orangutan[89]
Pacific Striped Dolphin[19]
Patas Monkey[90]
Pere David's Deer[29]
Pig (Domestic)[91]
Pig-tailed Macaque[14]
Plains Zebra[92]
Polar Bear[32]
Pretty-faced Wallaby[23]
Proboscis Monkey[59]
Pronghorn[93]
Przewalski's Horse[84]
Puku[94]
Quokka[95]
Rabbit[96]
Raccoon Dog[97]
Red Deer[29]
Red Fox[98]
Red Kangaroo[23]
Red-necked Wallaby[23]
Red Squirrel[61]
Reeves's Muntjac[68]
Reindeer[42]
Rhesus Macaque[14]
Right Whale[19]
Rock Cavy[38]
Rodrigues Fruit Bat[40]
Roe Deer[29]
Rufous Bettong[99]
Rufous-naped Tamarin[51]
Rufous Rat Kangaroo[23]
Saddle-back Tamarin[51]
Savanna Baboon[57]
Sea Otter[100]
Serotine Bat[40]
Sheep (Domestic)[30][101]
Siamang[102]
Sika Deer[29]
Slender Tree Shrew[50]
Sooty Mangabey[90]
Sperm Whale[19]
Spinifex Hopping Mouse[41]
Spinner Dolphin[19]
Spotted Hyena[16][18]
Spotted Seal[28]
Squirrel Monkey[103]
Striped Dolphin[19]
Stuart's Marsupial Mouse[104]
Stumptail Macaque[14]
Swamp Deer[29]
Swamp Wallaby[23]
Takhi[84]
Talapoin[90]
Tammar Wallaby[23]
Tasmanian Devil[104]
Tasmanian Rat Kangaroo[23]
Thinhorn Sheep[30]
Thomson's Gazelle[25]
Tiger[105]
Tonkean Macaque[14]
Tucuxi[106]
Urial[107]
Vampire Bat[40]
Verreaux's Sifaka[108]
Vervet[90]
Vicuna[109]
Walrus[110][111]
Wapiti[112]
Warthog[113]
Waterbuck[114]
Water Buffalo[30]
Weeper Capuchin[39]
Western Grey Kangaroo[23]
West Indian Manatee[115]
Whiptail Wallaby[23]
White-faced Capuchin[39]
White-fronted Capuchin[39]
White-handed Gibbon[116]
White-lipped Peccary[117]
White-tailed Deer[29]
Wild Cavy[38]
Wild Goat[30]
Wisent[21]
Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby[23]
Yellow-toothed Cavy[38]

[Image: 120px-Spotted_hyena2.jpg]


"Elevated levels of testosterone in utero"
[16] increases aggressiveness and both

male and female spotted hyenas mount submissive same-sex members who likely 
have lower levels of testosterone from their mothers.[16][17][18]


In truth, you and I may not even be here if it weren't for homosexuality. Our species might not have been able to overcome obstacles found within social strictures that we see being overcome in nature, on a daily basis, thanks to homosexuality. 
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#34
RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
Logically speaking, From reading the above, I can only come to one conclusion.

The OP has condemned gays because of his indoctrination and/or he is still in the closet.

"What is it with gays and religion?" hehe
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#35
RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
Also, do you disagree with the World Health Organization, who declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1990? You can feel free to check that up; it's a fact. May 17, 1990: World Health Organization declassifies homosexuality as a disorder.


If you'd like to see some studies on human sexual orientation, here are remarkable scientists and the results of their experiments.


Psychology:

Answers to your Questions for a Better Understand of Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality (PDF, 132KB)

Biology:

http://news.stanford.edu/pr/95/950310Arc5328.html

STANFORD -- Research into the biological basis of sexual orientation "presents a clear double message. Yes, genetics plays a part. No, it is not all genetics," Dora B. Goldstein, professor emeritus of molecular pharmacology, told the audience that attended the first in a series of public lectures sponsored by the Medical Center's Lesbian-Gay-Bisexual Community on March 9.

"This shouldn't be too surprising because that is what all kinds of behavioral studies indicate. Genes determine everything. The environment affects everything. Then there is this big area where the two interact," she added.

In her noon presentation, Goldstein reviewed relevant research in a number of different areas: population studies, family studies, twin studies, genetic research, childhood behavior, and brain differences.
DNA studies have identified the general location of at least one "gay gene." The maternal heritability of male homosexuality narrowed the region where such a gene must reside to the X chromosome, because sons get this chromosome from their mother. Analysis of DNA markers on the X chromosomes of sibling pairs has further narrowed the search to a region called XQ28. It consists of hundreds of genes and is located near the tip of the X chromosome. However, there is some indication that genes located elsewhere may have a similar effect on sexual orientation, Goldstein said.

Fetal development studies suggest how such a gene might influence such a complex behavior. The development of a fetus into a male is accomplished by the development of the testes, which produce testosterone, which has a wide range of physiological effects. During the perinatal period, a week before and after birth, testosterone has an irreversible organizing effect on the body and brain of males. If the hormone is absent during this period, the individual's anatomy and behavior never can become wholly male. A testosterone surge during puberty activates male sexual development and behavior.



* In 1993, the National Institute of Health’ Dean Hamer illustrated that homosexuality might be inherited from the mother by her sons through a specific region of the X chromosome (Xq28). Hamer demonstrated this by noting that 33 out of 40 pairs of homosexual brothers whom he studied showed the same variation in the tip of the chromosome.
- Hamer DH, Hu S, Magnuson VL, Hu N. and Pattatucci AML. A linkage between DNA markers on the X chromosome and male sexual orientation. Science 1993; 261:320-326.

* A study released in May 2006 by Swedish scientists demonstrates that biology plays a key role in determining a person’ sexuality. The research shows that the portion of the brain that helps regulate sexuality — the hypothalamus – reacted the exact same way in straight women and gay men when exposed to male pheromones, which are chemicals designed to provoke a behavior, such as sexual arousal. The same area of the brain only became stimulated in heterosexual men when introduced to female pheromones.
- by Ivanka Savic article in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, (PNAS) “Brain Response To Putative Pheromones In Homosexual Men,” (Vol. 102 No. 19) May 10, 2005.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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I am an atheist that despises atheists
He gone.

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(May 27, 2017 at 7:31 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(May 26, 2017 at 9:06 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: I find it very hard to admit this as of now but ever since I left Islam I have never been able to shake the fact that I absolutely despise atheist's majority opinions. Many atheists are liberal, socially progressive and completely illogical in areas of politics and emotional control. I have done my utmost best to rationalize why this is so and the more I attempt to, the more I desire religion to be in my life. On the other hand I cannot take religion seriously because of its illogical assertion of deities which is even more irrational to me. 

I find atheism as of now detrimental to society because of the void it creates that inevitably gets filled by something ludicrous like social progressivism. I see atheists arguing for "equal-marriage" and transgender rights while I sit back in disbelief questioning how you can belief in biological evolution and contradict your opinions with homosexuality and its place in society. I can only wonder if people are capable of distinguishing a fetish from sexual normalcy.

I see atheists getting duped by so many things in the social realm while politicising things that are either contradictory or irrational. I see the same thing from theists as well obviously yet I also see consistency and unity that is unshakable and consistent. I can witness potential and growth in the religious and only witness degeneration in atheism. Atheism is not a positive afterall and there is no claim being made from it, yet any ideological statement that is originating from secular thought is asinine to me. 


I am here stuck between two delusions and one I find emotionally satisfying and the other I find intellectually enriching. I do not know if I am alone on this or if this is a common sentiment.
So, to what golden standard do you base your moral stance on marriage?
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#38
RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
(May 26, 2017 at 9:45 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote:
(May 26, 2017 at 9:30 pm)Little lunch Wrote: Fetishes are sexual normalcy.

Yes but not a lifestyle that mandates state recognition. I admit to being an utter sadist and I enjoy my latex and spiked dildos but I do not seek state recognition to make my gf my legal sex slave. She would probably relish such a perverted world but I would never agree with such a thing because I have a moral conscious about social responsibility.

Here is an idea, if you don't want to have sex with someone of the same sex then dont. How fucking hard is that? Or are you secretly concerned you might like it? If you did, nobody here would judge you, because the sane here understand it is normal. What matters in adult sex is consent, even among heterosexuals you need consent, anything less than consent is rape.

The medical and psychiatric community has long since confirmed that homosexual behavior is normal. 

You don't get to deny others their right to love. It is not a "lifestyle", it is merely living life.
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#39
RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
(May 26, 2017 at 10:27 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: Please piss off and realize most people in the world don't agree with you or care anything about you.

Excellent advice. Take it.

Oh, you did.

Gone - and never called me "mother".
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RE: I am an atheist that despises atheists
I suppose I should care about the OP's broad generalizations and negative opinion, but my field of fucks was harvested last month and I simply have none to give.

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