What are your thoughts on fat acceptance?

[Silver]

I have also cut things out like milk out of my diet as well.

Hopefully, you are still consuming calcium.

Almond Milk is a great alternative to dairy milk, it tastes great, and it is much healthier for you overall.

Commercial almond milk is fortified to be similar in nutrient content to dairy milk. Almond milk has just as much calcium and vitamin D as cow's milk and about 1/4 as much protein.

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/healthy-...-3883.html

[Valyza1]

Most of us are well aware that there are people who are obese specifically because they eat poorly with no medical excuse. What we tend to not understand is that it's impossible to tell who those people are unless a) they just come right out and say it or b) they are us. So the best rule of thumb is, if you don't live by your own health standards, don't say a word to others about theirs. And if you do, kindly share your techniques. Shaming is for the insecure.

[Jackalope]

Myself, I have mental illness that is resistant to treatment. The meds cause weight gain, and for some people, cause massive weight gain.  I've been on some of the worst anti psychotics there are. Clozapine was the worst. Now I'm on different stuff. The Rexulti doesn't cause much weight gain but the Zyprexa is supposed to be almost as bad as the Clozapine, but I'm on a low dose.

I'm in the same boat. I put on close to a hundred pounds on Seroquel (Quetiapine) and Haldol (Haloperidol). The weight has been extremely difficult to take off despite great effort.

[Silver]

Of course, age has a great deal to do with it. At least for me.

When I was under thirty, I had trouble gaining weight. I was around 120.

After the age of thirty, however, I had no trouble gaining weight. I couldn't keep it off. I had to change my diet in order to maintain a healthy weight.

[The Industrial Atheist]

Myself, I have mental illness that is resistant to treatment. The meds cause weight gain, and for some people, cause massive weight gain.  I've been on some of the worst anti psychotics there are. Clozapine was the worst. Now I'm on different stuff. The Rexulti doesn't cause much weight gain but the Zyprexa is supposed to be almost as bad as the Clozapine, but I'm on a low dose.

I'm in the same boat. I put on close to a hundred pounds on Seroquel (Quetiapine) and Haldol (Haloperidol). The weight has been extremely difficult to take off despite great effort.

Yeah Seroquel is bad that way for a lot of people. I was on it a long time ago. I hope you can drop the l-b's. No point in invoking Jeebus.
Science bless.

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[Seraphina]

My thoughts?   We can address the public health issue of obesity without making it personal by shaming fat people.   The former is compassionate, the latter is just a fucking dick move.

The fact that government nutrition recommendations encouraged people to load up on an unhealthy amount of carbohydrates is at least partially responsible for this as a public health problem.  Treating it as an individual moral issue isn't helping.

Our HR here was "threatening" to impose a surcharge on anyone who was above a certain BMI.  Completely aside from the fact that a person's medical issues are really none of their business, I'm not going to be OK with that unless they also don't same for other actuarial risks.  Hello, tobacco use, what about you?  They went so far as to try and require employees to participate in a wellness program that included weigh-ins, tracking vitals, etc.  Sorry, no.  Those things are between myself and my physician, and they are none of my employer's business.

My company adds a hefty medical insurance surcharge to employees who are smokers. I wouldn't be surprised if they start adding surcharges based on BMI in the future. They also dangle out cash payments to employees who do their "wellness" program and who get preventive tests like mammograms and colonoscopies. No way in hell am I telling my employer my personal health information. But a surprising number of people happily turn their personal info over for $$.

-Teresa

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Then he should get offered help and let it be his choice if he takes it or not.

So he - while being a significant actuarial risk - is not subject to the same surcharges as the others?

When I obtained life insurance I had to step on a scale and get my blood tested for tobacco and who knows what else. Given the unfortunate fact that obesity is a major factor in many common, chronic diseases, I think the day will come when surcharges are added for high BMIs.

-Teresa

[Jackalope]

Life insurance is an entirely different issue, IMO.

[c172]

I'm fat, and it's complicated in part just by my being disabled. I'm 60 lbs overweight, but everybody is just like "it's just your strong arm muscles!", which is well intended, but doesn't help. OTOH, there are definitely those who have called me out on my weight, as well.

I actually like the idea of vice taxes, like on tobacco, and in theory on junk food and drink. I would not be shamed by that, but I would be dissuaded from my weekly SKOR bar. And that seems like a good thing.

At the end of the day, it's all about burning more calories than you take in, but I'm not big on math, and am likely pretty horrible at tabulating daily calorie intake. 

I dunno. Point is, it is an issue. It's a personal issue. It's a global issue. But shaming for its own sake is no good. I'm not going to walk out of a women's soccer match and shame the first female I see who looks even 20 lbs overweight. That's not going to make the epidemic vanish, and may lead to hurt feelings. But I do think the news is right to encourage this national (international?) debate respectfully.

[vorlon13]

If given a choice of 2 Christian babies to eat, I'd go with the fat one every time. More tender, juicier, flavorful, accepts seasoning mix better, more to share if company stops by . .

[brewer]

Then he should get offered help and let it be his choice if he takes it or not.

So he - while being a significant actuarial risk - is not subject to the same surcharges as the others?

The need to eat is not as much of a choice as other health/actuarial risks (smoking/rock climbing/racing/........). It need to be looked at and approached differently. The company that I previously mentioned, while assessing a surcharge for smoking and flat out not covering dangerous activity injuries (you could purchase a separate policy) offered savings or discounts to people who voluntarily signed up for and actively participated in wellness programs which that focused on weight, cardiovascular, diabetes, asthma, immunization........ They also provided assistance programs with smoking cessation. 

They were still responsible for any additional medical costs associated with the program guidelines.