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Mary Jane may not be able to ride
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Oral fluid testing for marijuana intoxication/DUI. 91% accuracy rate.
I could be late to the show. http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/...016-042264
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
I don't smoke anyway.
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~ Erin Hunter  (June 5, 2017 at 8:57 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Oral fluid testing for marijuana intoxication/DUI. 91% accuracy rate. 91% accuracy is a lot of room for error, though it is substantially better than the completely unscientific blood tests used in WA state today. (June 5, 2017 at 9:11 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(June 5, 2017 at 8:57 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Oral fluid testing for marijuana intoxication/DUI. 91% accuracy rate. Yeah, but 91% is enough to fuck up your day(s).
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
I believe the test George Carlin proposed is the gold standard.
The cop pulls you over, walks up to your vehicle, and pulls out a bag of Cheetos . . The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 RE: Mary Jane may not be able to ride
June 5, 2017 at 10:07 am
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2017 at 10:10 am by Alex K.)
Does the test have 8% false positive? For a rare condition such a false positive rate makes a test entirely useless to show a person is positive. If say one out of 10 tested people is on average expected to be positive, a test with an 8% false positive rate means a positive result is as likely due to false alarm as it is a true positive result. So it really hinges on prior probability whether such a test is of any use to show a person is positive. Excluding the condition can still be more reliable which can have its uses, but the person using the test must be aware that this only goes one way...
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RE: Mary Jane may not be able to ride
June 5, 2017 at 10:23 am
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2017 at 10:23 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I think that police depts will use it for as long as people put up with it...but there really does need to be a better a field sobriety test for weed, to determine whether or not someone's currently incapacitated. Otherwise, they're fishing for an extra charge, for example. The test doesn't show that you are impaired, only that you're a toker.
Ultimately, i'd say that they already provide enough accuracy to detain a person on suspicion (provided that they actually were driving suspisciously, lol..fucking cops). I'd draw the line at field sobriety checkpoints that take blanket swabs and write down the license plate number- which is where it would go. A revenue dragnet. But.,,,,how do we implement the one without facilitating the other?
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(June 5, 2017 at 10:23 am)Khemikal Wrote: I think that police depts will use it for as long as people put up with it...but there really does need to be a better a field sobriety test for weed, to determine whether or not someone's currently incapacitated. Otherwise, they're fishing for an extra charge, for example. The test doesn't show that you are impaired, only that you're a toker. Currently, Washington state uses a blood test to measure blood levels of THC. Maybe you know this already. Problem with that is, there's actually no science to indicate what level is impairing, and perhaps even worse, regular users have a high tolerance and can have a positive result after not imbibing for weeks or longer. Obviously that would not be impairing in the least. I expect that if I were tested to that I'd test positive regardless of whether I'm impaired. The state is no doubt aware of this but persists in the charade. Personally, I think we need a workable standard to serve both the interests of justice and safety. The one we have isn't it.
Me too, I'm token all day eryday. As it stands, that puts a person between a rock and a hard place - where, if forced to defend themselves, a person would have to implicate themselves in some other crime.
It's convenient for the state from any angle.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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