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Universal basic income in the future
#61
RE: Universal basic income in the future
(September 23, 2019 at 9:55 am)Aegon Wrote:
(September 22, 2019 at 9:01 pm)wyzas Wrote: Maybe it's simply a generational thing, but UBI does not sit well with me. And I'm not convinced that robots/AI will replace human contribution. The contribution/work will simply change.

I don't think you need AI to replace anything to justify UBI, personally. Especially in such a radically top-heavy economy like the United States in 2019. In many ways I think UBI is one of the only ways to save American capitalism. What is "trickle-down economics" if not immense corporate welfare, to put more money in the hands of the wealthy? What is so insane about a UBI as means of "trickle-up economics," at least this time the government is giving money to people who will spend it.

That being said, I'm hard-pressed to believe that 3 - 4 million truckers will all have jobs in that industry in 10 years. Perhaps half of them will keep their jobs and drive the trucks in urban areas, when self-driving trucks are only advanced enough to cover the long highways. Then eventually those will be gone too. That's one example.

CVS near me cut half the staff because of self-checkout machines. Are the cashiers going to learn how to fix and operate self-checkout machines to make up for it?

(September 23, 2019 at 8:18 am)wyzas Wrote: Can't they be educated.............. by humans?

College education is generally unaffordable and student debt is a massive burden on the economy. And government retraining programs have a terrible success rate.

So then nothing can change, except for initiating UBI?
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#62
RE: Universal basic income in the future
Not sure if I can say that nothing at all can change, that since I'm no expert in any of this. My point is, from what I know, it looks like a decent enough idea.
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RE: Universal basic income in the future
(September 22, 2019 at 9:01 pm)wyzas Wrote: Maybe it's simply a generational thing, but UBI does not sit well with me. And I'm not convinced that robots/AI will replace human contribution. The contribution/work will simply change.

I think there will be some fields which will take a long time for machines and robots to replace humans.   Amongst the very last in which robots can finally be able to fully replace humans will undoubtedly be fields of self-importance, self-deception and vanity.     But even in these I see no reason why robots will not eventually surpass us and deny our justification for existence.

We must integrate more robotic capabilities into our behavior and physiology and do so ahead of the curve to survive.   .
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RE: Universal basic income in the future
The candidate advocating for it.





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