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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 9:18 pm
(August 11, 2017 at 9:05 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote: (August 11, 2017 at 8:56 pm)Succubus Wrote: How do you explain the fact that all living things on this planet share the same DNA?
I am a creationist. So as you might expect, I think the God who created used similar building blocks in the various kinds that were created.
How very convenient.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 9:20 pm
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Quote:How very convenient.
Psst. Don't tell him that his fucking book says that his "god" played in the dirt.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 9:25 pm
Look R, I am not being mean to you. We have a resident Muslim here named Atlass33
He also thinks the cause of life is Allah.
Start a thread with him and debate him for a while.
I like him, he is actually so far, far less irritating than you. I don't like his sky hero claims anymore than I like yours. But he does not irritate me as much as you are right now.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 9:31 pm
Quote:I am a creationist. So as you might expect, I think the God who created used similar building blocks in the various kinds that were created.
So in other words your a moron
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 9:51 pm
(August 11, 2017 at 3:43 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote: Operational (Observational) Science: a systematic approach to understanding that uses observable, testable, repeatable, and falsifiable experimentation to understand how nature commonly behaves.
Historical (Origins) Science: interpreting evidence from past events based on a presupposed philosophical point of view.
underlined mine
This is the entire point, god can't be philosophized into existence. Therefore any science (historical or operational) where you make interpretations based on the held philosophy that god exists is in error.
Again, if you, or the god entity itself, can show evidence that it exists then do it.
Until that time, whether you like it or not, the idea of any god is a psychological tool used for manipulation, both good and bad.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 10:28 pm
Historical Science: interpreting evidence from past events based on scientific evidence and valid inferences that are neutral . Only creationist believe the contrary .
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 10:42 pm
(August 11, 2017 at 9:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Look R, I am not being mean to you. We have a resident Muslim here named Atlass33
He also thinks the cause of life is Allah.
Start a thread with him and debate him for a while.
I like him, he is actually so far, far less irritating than you. I don't like his sky hero claims anymore than I like yours. But he does not irritate me as much as you are right now.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 10:43 pm
And nope only creationists redefine evolution so they can cherry pick stuff the does not contradict there nonsense . While avoiding the inescapable implications the science demonstrates .
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 10:46 pm
(August 11, 2017 at 9:51 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: This is the entire point, god can't be philosophized into existence.
He doesn't have to. He already exists. And He can't be ignored into non-existence.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 11, 2017 at 10:47 pm
Quote:"Historical science" is a term used to describe sciences in which data is provided primarily from past events and for which there is usually no direct experimental data, such as cosmology, astronomy, astrophysics, geology, paleontology and archaeology. The term is often misused by creationists for any science that "interpret[s] evidence from the past and includes the models of evolution and special creation."[1] It is used to designate those sciences which creationists have complaints about, such as evolution and abiogenesis, and is the opposite of operational or experimental science.
Quote:The term "Operational science" and the creationist understanding of "Historical science" are not considered valid scientific terminology, and primarily appear in arguments presented by creationists about whether ideas such as abiogenesis, evolution and the Big Bang Theory are really scientific. As Bill Nye pointed out when debating Ken Ham, even Ken Ham admits that the distinction is entirely a creationist invention, and no scientist not on the Answers in Genesis (AiG) payroll agrees with him about it.
Quote:Many scientists believe that there is a uniform, interdisciplinary method for the practice of good science. The paradigmatic examples, however, are drawn from classical experimental science. Insofar as historical hypotheses cannot be tested in controlled laboratory settings, historical research is sometimes said to be inferior to experimental research. Using examples from diverse historical disciplines, this paper demonstrates that such claims are misguided. First, the reputed superiority of experimental research is based upon accounts of scientific methodology (Baconian inductivism or falsificationism) that are deeply flawed, both logically and as accounts of the actual practices of scientists. Second, although there are fundamental differences in methodology between experimental scientists and historical scientists, they are keyed to a pervasive feature of nature, a time asymmetry of causation. As a consequence, the claim that historical science is methodologically inferior to experimental science cannot be sustained.
Dr. Carol Cleland of the Department of Philosophy and Center for Astrobiology at the University of Colorado in Boulder writes
Quote:Philosophers of science draw a distinction between research directed towards identifying laws and research which seeks to determine how particular historical events occurred. They do not claim, however, that the line between these sorts of science can be drawn neatly, and certainly do not agree that historical claims are any less empirically verifiable than other sorts of claims.
The National Center for Science Education
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