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Discipline/lack of and atheism
RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
(June 13, 2017 at 12:17 am)Adventurer Wrote: I'm a worse idiot beyond measure. It's time to render myself inexistent at once.

Oh, quit it.

Stop prolonging this, Adventurer. It's over, take your lumps and move on. If you're really suicidal, go talk to your mother. Seriously.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
(June 13, 2017 at 12:20 am)Whateverist Wrote: Get some help.  No one is worthless.  Everyone is imperfect.  So fucking what?  Move on.  Learn.  Grow.  Enjoy.

Since God is a man-made concept as far as I can understand through the lens of human history, change of plan from going suicidal (this change of plan is only tentative, not with 100% certainty), I think I'm going to start a new religion and conceive God as quite radically different - just a cultural thing. That is, I might start a new group, fellowship, culture and religion that strictly self-acknowledges as all man-made and cultural, enough not to warrant delusions of any sort yet tinged with a humanistic approach and mostly Golden Rule-oriented/inspired, just in this name. You may also want to check my posts in the thread 'What's everyone up to?' in Off Topic subforum.

Anyways, Whateverist, would you like to join my new fellowship? If not, that's entirely okay too.
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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
Thank you but no, I have no nostalgia for anything about 'church'. Did you catch my reply about humanism? Not really a system-guy.
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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
(June 13, 2017 at 12:31 am)Whateverist Wrote: Thank you but no, I have no nostalgia for anything about 'church'.  Did you catch my reply about humanism?  Not really a system-guy.

No worries, sir. I don't remember your reply about humanism.

(June 13, 2017 at 12:22 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(June 13, 2017 at 12:17 am)Adventurer Wrote: I'm a worse idiot beyond measure. It's time to render myself inexistent at once.

Oh, quit it.

Stop prolonging this, Adventurer. It's over, take your lumps and move on. If you're really suicidal, go talk to your mother. Seriously.

Thank you for a kind advice, SC but no thank you. I won't talk to anyone - just let it be how my suicidal plan turns out. It's entirely my problem, not yours when agonising over how things flared up here.

SC, I hope all is well and peace be upon you.
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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
Oh, and to answer the actual first post.

I am pretty disciplined - couldn't do my job without being so.

My house is pretty tidy, apart from the stubborn bloodstains in the basement (and bodies can be a challenge to get rid of, let me tell you...)

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
(June 12, 2017 at 10:41 pm)Adventurer Wrote: Since many moderators seem to have objections against who I am as a person and my request to join Area 69, I conclude that it is very unlikely for me to get admitted into it forever.

Membership of Area 69 is not a given right; it's a privilege granted at the consent of the entire Staff. As it is a private members' area, all applications have to be vetted thoroughly in the interests of maintaining a safe and comfortable posting environment for everyone. I have personally had to remove people from A69 who were being a disruptive influence; and we have dismissed applications from several others on similar grounds.

This is not about you as a person. Grow up.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
(June 13, 2017 at 12:10 am)Adventurer Wrote: Fair enough.

I will walk away and will try not to retaliate anymore, no matter how some might keep hurting me beyond my tolerance.

P.S. I'm truly a worthless, worst person, enough to necessitate my inexistence. End of story.

If participating in a forum hurts you beyond your tolerance then maybe participating in a forum (this forum) is not for you. 

Making a suicide allusion because you think people are not treating you as well as you believe you deserve does not set well with me. It seems childish. Stop the passive aggressive attempts at manipulation shit.

Do you understand that all of the "hurt" was brought on by your own behavior? Maybe you should go back and review your behavior and actions and see if you can learn anything, maybe a little self improvement.

You may have burned your bridges here and it might be time to cut your loses.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
(June 12, 2017 at 7:51 pm)Adventurer Wrote:
(June 12, 2017 at 1:02 pm)Cyberman Wrote: At least you appreciate the work; thank you. I don't think our friend believes me.

Adventurer, why don't you ask me for evidence?

I knew you were joking before Whateverist brought this to my attention.

So I noticed:

(June 12, 2017 at 10:00 am)Adventurer Wrote: Cyberman above has interesting counterargument, whose inspiration probably stems from his physicist-outlook - to which my somewhat physicist/reductionist one quite resonates since I was 16.

I think the only reason you won't ask me for evidence is that you're frightened of The Truth™.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
(June 12, 2017 at 10:03 am)Adventurer Wrote:
(June 12, 2017 at 10:01 am)Cyberman Wrote: No. I have personally, physically, visited every particle of every matter and energy state that ever was and ever will be. I have personally dissected every spacetime event of every universe with my own hands. No gods.

Cool. Can you do me a favour? Can you kindly reverse the inevitable dissipation of heat into eternal coldness and darkness, defying the second law of thermodynamics, or Entropy? Can you also curve and bend the universe to create sectional wormholes right here, so I can get a glimpse of it all in its historical glory?

How did you extrapolate Cyberman being omnipotent from his omniscience regarding the existence of any gods?

(June 12, 2017 at 11:09 pm)Adventurer Wrote:
(June 12, 2017 at 11:08 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: I seriously think you should see someone about your paranoia. And no, I'm not joking about that.

I'm just distressed and traumatised by unnecessary, antagonistic backlash I'm receiving here. I'm just feeling suicidal, almost.

Then you should be at a counselor, not here.

'Here lies someone who killed themselves over a conversation on a discussion board' would be a very shitty epitaph.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Discipline/lack of and atheism
I should point out that the forum isn't, nor should it be, above alerting emergency services in the area of a member threatening suicide.

I was that soldier.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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