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Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
#21
RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
There are defections from the ranks, it would seem.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/reluctan...rting-him/


Quote:Reluctant Trump voters losing faith: ‘I hope he wakes up and realizes’ we are ‘no longer supporting him’
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#22
RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
(June 16, 2017 at 7:55 pm)It_Was_me Wrote:
(June 16, 2017 at 7:52 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Not ever a supporter but yes, there is something, many things wrong with him. 

I've said this else where, I feel that firing Comey is the beginning of the end. As things continue to deteriorate I may be correct. But not gonna hold my breath.

Yeah I'm not either. It really may not be until the end of the Trump presidency in 2020 when there is an actual conviction. He will either be impeached, quit or last all 4 years. But there is no way he will be reelected. There will either be a strong Republican against him or a Democrat may win. I mean, when it comes to another GOP candidate, I'm pretty sure ANYONE would vote for ANYONE that is not Trump

(June 16, 2017 at 7:50 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Speaking of sky daddy, don't theists have the same problem of admitting that their god is a bad deity?

It is almost as though some people are experiencing a different reality than other people.  Rather, those who refuse to admit to what others see clearly are merely delusional.

I have an aunt who really believes that Trump was sent down by God. Yes, I am not exaggerating that one bit. She is really batshit insane. One time she was visiting us a few years ago and she went on and on that Obama is the Anti-Christ. haha the woman is fucking insane. My Dad even made her cry once. Then again my Dad is someone who will tell you like it is. lol But speaking of my parents, they are actually staunch republicans and HATE and I mean HATE Trump with a passion. Then again, I would probably consider them more moderately religious and republican. After all, they have warmed up to the concept of things like Gay rights.
I have family members and clients like your aunt. I think a major problem is the Republican Party using church sermon tactics to keep people believing. Ever notice how a few key points are repeated over and over in a sermon. When I stopped passing notes in church and started paying attention I found the substance of the sermon was based on overstating some sort of Fear: fear of death, or the evil of abortion aka baby murder, or homosexuals are rising in numbers=end times are nearing, Obama is the anti-christ after all his name rhymes with Osama, So much bullshit interpretation, then like in hypnotic therapy session the "Ding" comes with the zen like praise music. We are left feeling superior, and believing  Jesus gives us peace. Ofcourse they need to support trump, because god is using him to fight all the evil amongst us that I listed above. Angry Mind fuckers.
I was a born-again christian for many years then I got woke.. and now life is better in so many ways. It's taking me time to see my value and find my voice, but the reward is liberating knowing my path is not dictated or controlled by fear of death and the unknown.  Casting off the shackles of religion is pretty fucking awesome. The beautiful people I've met on this forum have more heart and compassion than any group of people I've been apart of. So back off Jesus and followers, because this bitch is done with Chu.  Shy 
  
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#23
RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
(June 16, 2017 at 11:58 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:
(June 16, 2017 at 7:55 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: There will either be a strong Republican against him or a Democrat may win.

Has there ever been an elected, sitting president who didn't get his party's nomination without stepping down?



I did a quick search and couldn't find a president who lost the nomination to another member of their party. Trump, if he doesn't get impeached or resign to avoid impeachment, just might set a precedent here.

In my recollection, I come up with Ted Kennedy vs Carter's re-election bid. But Ted didn't win the nomination, but he had considerable support.

Ted probably didn't have a chance however, and we'll never know about some of the permutations, but he did not help Carter at all with his challenge.  Maybe Reagan would have still won with Ted sitting out the primaries, but it's something to ponder.
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
(June 17, 2017 at 11:01 am)vorlon13 Wrote: In my recollection, I come up with Ted Kennedy vs Carter's re-election bid. But Ted didn't win the nomination, but he had considerable support.

Ted probably didn't have a chance however, and we'll never know about some of the permutations, but he did not help Carter at all with his challenge.  Maybe Reagan would have still won with Ted sitting out the primaries, but it's something to ponder.

My recollection is pretty hazy, but I expect that frustration over the hostage crisis didn't hurt Reagan's odds at all.
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#25
RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
@OP Q
Because there's nothing wrong with him, to them.

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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
(June 17, 2017 at 1:11 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(June 17, 2017 at 11:01 am)vorlon13 Wrote: In my recollection, I come up with Ted Kennedy vs Carter's re-election bid. But Ted didn't win the nomination, but he had considerable support.

Ted probably didn't have a chance however, and we'll never know about some of the permutations, but he did not help Carter at all with his challenge.  Maybe Reagan would have still won with Ted sitting out the primaries, but it's something to ponder.

My recollection is pretty hazy, but I expect that frustration over the hostage crisis didn't hurt Reagan's odds at all.

Carter's presidency coincided with my first years of being 'out' and sexually active.  I'm lucky to remember his name.

I am a Kennedy fan of sorts, and do remember Ted challenging Carter and making quite a ruckus.  Granted I'm from a rural area*, but my recollection regarding why Ted failed was pretty much entirely attributable to Chappaquiddick and Mary Joe Kopechne's death.  (I was strangely optimistic when Ted passed away that there might have been a final release of information from his files on the matter but there wasn't.)  I don't have a theory of my own about what happened, BTW, but I have never read any explanation I found to be cohesive, coherent, and complete either.  Ted's own affidavit or deposition or whatever is one of the least plausible and omits explanations and/or acknowledgement of other actions/events that both were proven or absolutely disproven to have occurred that night.  Unfortunately, no other scenario ever put forward explains everything to my satisfaction and Mr. Occam's either.  


*Memories are long out here, and I can't think of anyone that thought Ted had a chance, where as the 'city folk' were less concerned about Chappaquiddick.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
(June 17, 2017 at 7:29 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:
(June 17, 2017 at 1:11 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: My recollection is pretty hazy, but I expect that frustration over the hostage crisis didn't hurt Reagan's odds at all.

Carter's presidency coincided with my first years of being 'out' and sexually active.  I'm lucky to remember his name.

I am a Kennedy fan of sorts, and do remember Ted challenging Carter and making quite a ruckus.  Granted I'm from a rural area*, but my recollection regarding why Ted failed was pretty much entirely attributable to Chappaquiddick and Mary Joe Kopechne's death.  (I was strangely optimistic when Ted passed away that there might have been a final release of information from his files on the matter but there wasn't.)  I don't have a theory of my own about what happened, BTW, but I have never read any explanation I found to be cohesive, coherent, and complete either.  Ted's own affidavit or deposition or whatever is one of the least plausible and omits explanations and/or acknowledgement of other actions/events that both were proven or absolutely disproven to have occurred that night.  Unfortunately, no other scenario ever put forward explains everything to my satisfaction and Mr. Occam's either.  


*Memories are long out here, and I can't think of anyone that thought Ted had a chance, where as the 'city folk' were less concerned about Chappaquiddick.

Remember the spoof Volkswagen commercial in National Lampoon that said if Ted had had a VW Bug, he would be President? Man, they caught some shit for that!
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#28
RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
funny as hell, and Ted deserved it all

There were things he swore happened in his statements afterward that are proven to never have occurred, and there are things he definitely did that he never admitted to or explained.

Having noted that however, I've never encountered a theory of what might have happened that didn't seem to have 'fantastical elements' or absurdities of it's own.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#29
RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
I have actually tried to think of American who would be worse presidents, and I'm at a loss. There are more sane, less dishonest televangelists than TrumpTrump.

I guess Ken Ham could be worse. He is also a loon with a massive ego. I'm sure there are 2 or 3 others who would be equally bad, but few come to mind. There are loons like Tom Cruise, narcissistic twats like Kanye West, word salad makers like Deepak Chopra, etc. Yet I would prefer any of these people over Trump, who blends the worst of every single personality trait imaginable.

To answer the op, simple. Because to do so would be to admit there is something wrong with themselves.
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#30
RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
The problem is that they are fucking idiots, and he's the Prince of Idiots. Why wouldn't they like to see a real government taken down by a fucking orangutan?
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