Is atheism self-contradictory ?

[Whateverist]

I don't know how one who is under the atheist umbrella can believe that their cognitive faculties are geared towards ascertaining truth because they believe their cognitive faculties were ultimately produced by cold and mindless natural processes.

What would your mother think if she heard you calling her a cold and mindless natural process?

Sometimes I slap her on the ass when I'm with her and call her that.  She seems to like it.  

[Astonished]

Hello everyone ,

This is my first thread on the forum, and I hope to get convincing responses to a question I stumbled upon concerning atheism.

Assuming no God can be proven by logic, how can one trust his judgment about religions/existence of god if his mind itself cannot be trusted ? How can I trust any atheist/agnostic's claim that all kinds of proofs that have been given by scholars or philosophers of religion throughout history are false ?

Therefore, rejecting belief is in itself belief that your mind possesses some kind of an absolute power that makes you distinguish between good arguments and fallacies. I don't want to talk about evolution in this thread, but since the brain is the product of random alterations of our genome, how can it be trustworthy ? 

You'll say to me that this power is simply logial reasoning, but, you see, logic is based on axioms, i.e. basic FACTS taken for granted. What are you taking for granted to refute any logical argument whatsoever ? And why do you TRUST your thinking in the first place ?

I don't know how one who is under the atheist umbrella can believe that their cognitive faculties are geared towards ascertaining truth because they believe their cognitive faculties were ultimately produced by cold and mindless natural processes.

As opposed to to a cold and mindless unnatural process? Once again, I must reiterate-how the fuck does this not also completely obliterate every theist position, if it's meant to be a defense of it?

[Whateverist]

Weird hiccup.

[Amarok]

I don't know how one who is under the atheist umbrella can believe that their cognitive faculties are geared towards ascertaining truth because they believe their cognitive faculties were ultimately produced by cold and mindless natural processes.

As opposed to to a cold and mindless unnatural process? Once again, I must reiterate-how the fuck does this not also completely obliterate every theist position, if it's meant to be a defense of it?

Or a warm conscience unnatural process because reasons...

[Astonished]

As opposed to to a cold and mindless unnatural process? Once again, I must reiterate-how the fuck does this not also completely obliterate every theist position, if it's meant to be a defense of it?

Or a warm conscience unnatural process because reasons...

It's no different than the pointless assertion that god cannot/will not tell lies because he's the ultimate good/it's not in his nature. He wouldn't create minds that could be fooled, but evolution would. Which actually supports evolution because that's all about shitty examples of 'design' like our breathing and eating tubes being the same thing, so why not a brain that has tons of problems? Or what happens with dudes' prostates and stuff. What, god would make our brains perfect but the rest of our bodies are total fuck-ups? Some intelligent design.

[The Grand Nudger]

Planned obsolescense, Astonished.  Human beings are gods version of cheap consumer goods.

[Astonished]

Planned obsolescense, Astonished.  Human beings are gods version of cheap consumer goods.

Exactly; why the FUCK would he want to keep us around forever, then? No wonder he wants to make it so easy to go to hell.

[Succubus]

As an atheist, what part of God are you still interested in?

Unless you're on day two of being an atheist, you really shoudn't have time for the concept of a God.

When the twenty six bishops that infest The House of Lords are drop kicked into the river Thames then I'll take less of an interest in these myths and fables.
Until then; I will continue to mock religion at every opportunity.

[Parsim0ny]

I know god exists because my mind is reliable, I know it's reliable because god made it.

No, buddy. This is not what I said. I think I'm obliged to quote myself to clarify your misunderstanding ...

If there is a God, who is by definition absolutely fair, he must make his creatures capable of knowing him and follow the right path. Therefore, I know my mind is reliable because God made it that way.

Only under the assumption that God exists one can know for sure that his mind is reliable. I didn't claim I know he exists independently, this is not what the thread is about, I'm not trying to prove God independently.

It's religious people saying you can't know something is true unless an ancient book says so. 

What a terrible hasty generalization.

[The Grand Nudger]

Only under the assumption that God exists one can know for sure that his mind is reliable. I didn't claim I know he exists independently, this is not what the thread is about, I'm not trying to prove God independently.

That doesn't get any less silly, or any more true, through repetition.  It's not even internally coherent.  Even if you assumed god existed - you still would not know that your mind were reliable.

Plenty of nutters in the padded cells assume god. They probably think that their minds are reliable too, just like you. That they're in a padded cell and you are here, peddling nonsense like the shit up above...demonstrates that each of your personal assessments about the reliability of your minds are in error regardless of the assumption or existence of a god.

Who filled your head with this trash? It seems like they must have loathed you.