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Another Airbus near miss (Western australia)
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Another Airbus near miss (Western australia)
AirAsia X flight D7237 Airbus 330 today landed safely on one engine after the other lost a blade from the turbine.
The pilot of 44 years experience asked the passengers to pray they land safely.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-25/ai...ue/8649990

If I was a passenger, for the captain to tell me to pray, would be the scariest thing in the world to hear!
Anyway, the prayers were answered. There were Muslims on board being interviewed also.

I want to know who's God answered the prayer? It would be rude to give praise to a God who was busy looking for Steve's keys or finding little Sally a pony.
Do all prayers go to a call centre where the next available God is dispatched?

Zeus is a bit quiet these days, I bet it was him!
I believe in you Zeus. I don't care what everyone thinks... You are the man.
(and the pilot with 44 years experience may have also had a minor part to play...)
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Another Airbus near miss (Western australia)
You might be a little more sympathetic to this Malaysian pilot's appeal to the supernatural rather than human skill, design and maintenance, if you had known that another plane operated by this same budget airline AirAsia finally crashed last year, killing all aboard, after having flown passenger services for over a year, including along the same route as the flight that is the subject of this thread, with a broken rudder that the maintenance knew but didn't fix or tell the pilots, which technically made the plane unairworthy.
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RE: Another Airbus near miss (Western australia)
Well that just sucks... No-one died fortunately in this instance.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Another Airbus near miss (Western australia)
god of physics
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Another Airbus near miss (Western australia)
(June 25, 2017 at 6:57 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: You might be a little more sympathetic to this Malaysian pilot's appeal to the supernatural rather than human skill, design and maintenance, if you had known that another plane operated by this same budget airline AirAsia finally crashed last year, killing all aboard, after having flown passenger services for over a year, including along the same route as the flight that is the subject of this thread, with a broken rudder that the maintenance knew but didn't fix or tell the pilots, which technically made the plane unairworthy.

More sympathetic? Why? While a known issue with the rudder travel limiter was a contributing factor in the previous accident, it wasn't the cause. The cause was a pilot that wasn't giving clear instructions and a copilot who apparently was lacking in basic airmanship skills. But that was an unusual failure compounded by inept humans which is something that is extremely difficult to predict or train for. 

In this incident, one of the engines took a shit. That is a scenario that the aircraft is designed to deal with successfully. There are well established very bullet proof procedures for it and air line crews train on those procedures several times a year. Once the situation was identified and the procedures carried out, making an airport should have never been in doubt. The fact that this ass clown told the pax to pray is insane. You need the pax to stay as calm as possible. Telling them to pray after an engine failure is nothing short of grossly irresponsible. He doesn't need sympathy, he needs to be fired.
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RE: Another Airbus near miss (Western australia)
be thankful pilot didn't don that psychic bucket device allowing him to use divination to figure out problem

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RE: Another Airbus near miss (Western australia)
(June 25, 2017 at 11:09 am)johan Wrote:
(June 25, 2017 at 6:57 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: You might be a little more sympathetic to this Malaysian pilot's appeal to the supernatural rather than human skill, design and maintenance, if you had known that another plane operated by this same budget airline AirAsia finally crashed last year, killing all aboard, after having flown passenger services for over a year, including along the same route as the flight that is the subject of this thread, with a broken rudder that the maintenance knew but didn't fix or tell the pilots, which technically made the plane unairworthy.

More sympathetic? Why? While a known issue with the rudder travel limiter was a contributing factor in the previous accident, it wasn't the cause. The cause was a pilot that wasn't giving clear instructions and a copilot who apparently was lacking in basic airmanship skills. But that was an unusual failure compounded by inept humans which is something that is extremely difficult to predict or train for. 

In this incident, one of the engines took a shit. That is a scenario that the aircraft is designed to deal with successfully. There are well established very bullet proof procedures for it and air line crews train on those procedures several times a year. Once the situation was identified and the procedures carried out, making an airport should have never been in doubt. The fact that this ass clown told the pax to pray is insane. You need the pax to stay as calm as possible. Telling them to pray after an engine failure is nothing short of grossly irresponsible. He doesn't need sympathy, he needs to be fired.

It doesn't matter the previous aircraft crashed due to an different immediate cause. The fact that it was allowed to fly for a year with a airworthiness fault known to maintenance for a year but unreported to the pilot has to create tremendous doubt in the minds of the pilot regarding how many unaddressed airworthiness faults are present on his aircraft.

The fact that there is excellent proceeddure for turbine failure in a jet engine is only comforting if the plane is thought to be well maintained and otherwise in good working order, so that cascade failure resulting from poor maintenance is unlikely to occur.
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