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Why would this be so hard to have done?
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RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
(June 29, 2017 at 12:37 am)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, well, god is a dick as portrayed in the Big Book of Bullshit.  That much is beyond discusssion.

But this proposal basically fixes all the stupid shit they try to dismiss. This is the literal perfect version of their fucked-up monster. So if they're trying to still claim theirs is better than the ideal I concocted, or the equal of it, they can immediately be written off. Seriously, I might consider forcing any evangelist at my door to read that and if they can't match it point for point (I will of course have ammunition to counter everything), I'll ask them why they worship their shitty god and not this ideal version. I'd love to see 'em squirm.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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#12
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
You failed in your first sentence and went down from there.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#13
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
(June 29, 2017 at 1:10 am)Godscreated Wrote: You failed in your first sentence and went down from there.

GC

Of course I did, because I'm describing a god who isn't a complete piece of shit like the one you seem determined to defend; cause when I say god, I'm expecting that word to actually mean something, something fucking PERFECT, and no god who has any fucking self-respect would stand for being anything less (says a lot about the fact that your god doesn't seem to be of that mind, don't it?). I wonder why a god that unjust won't also punish the idiots who do such a piss-poor job of defending him since no one ever seems to talk about that. Maybe Yahweh understands that it's just impossible, even for himself, to do because he's such a dipfuck. But I doubt it. He does enjoy blaming others for his own faults so why wouldn't he let others who fail to defend his pride when he's capable but unwilling to do it on his own? That's at least consistent with his character of a lump of rancid pigshit.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#14
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
(June 28, 2017 at 10:20 pm)ronedee Wrote:
(June 28, 2017 at 9:18 pm)Astonished Wrote: This would be a world where you could consider life a gift. This would be a world where life would never be compared to a test. This is a world where you couldn't get away with being an atheist. This is a world where you couldn't possibly justify thinking of Yahweh as anything but perfect in every way. We don't have that. We don't have anything remotely like that. We don't have any effort being put in by any creator trying to make it more like that. We don't have any reason to think any creator actually knew what they were doing or gave a shit about us if they did. If you can't come up with a god and scenario like the one I outlined above, or acknowledge that anything less than that is unacceptable, please shove your entire ideology up your fucking ass. Your entire worldview is a colossal, pathetic, deplorable, laughable failure.

How about this scenario: Live a good, moral life, help & love one another; then see what shakes out on the other side?

It might actually be better than dying a hundred times just to hold Yahweh's hand, and find out what a cad you've been.

Can't make no money or control people with that drivel.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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#15
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
Again...because this would have to be the ideal for anyone making any religious claim to be taken seriously as to why this would be a GOOD thing to latch onto. "Oh, your god can't deliver on something as good as this? Fuck you and that lazy, impotent turd, then."
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#16
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
Don't you know we can't have that because our great granddaddy to the 50th power ate an apple. Collective punishment and all.
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#17
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
(June 29, 2017 at 11:34 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: Don't you know we can't have that because our great granddaddy to the 50th power ate an apple. Collective punishment and all.

Right, because the deck was stacked against us from the beginning and our oh-so-perfect Yahweh decided he couldn't be blamed for installing that flaw in our programming because he's above all that. The disconnect from logic there is inexcusable for apologists.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#18
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
(June 29, 2017 at 11:36 am)Astonished Wrote:
(June 29, 2017 at 11:34 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: Don't you know we can't have that because our great granddaddy to the 50th power ate an apple. Collective punishment and all.

Right, because the deck was stacked against us from the beginning and our oh-so-perfect Yahweh decided he couldn't be blamed for installing that flaw in our programming because he's above all that. The disconnect from logic there is inexcusable for apologists.

No, no Adam and Eve should've been ok with being too dumb to know they were naked. The Space Wizard doesn't want us seek out knowledge even though he built us to want knowledge.
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#19
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
Why is it so hard?

Probably because there is no Yahweh ... only Joe Pesci, and his ain't a warm and loving presence.

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#20
RE: Why would this be so hard to have done?
(June 29, 2017 at 11:40 am)Industrial Lad Wrote:
(June 29, 2017 at 11:36 am)Astonished Wrote: Right, because the deck was stacked against us from the beginning and our oh-so-perfect Yahweh decided he couldn't be blamed for installing that flaw in our programming because he's above all that. The disconnect from logic there is inexcusable for apologists.

No, no Adam and Eve should've been ok with being too dumb to know they were naked. The Space Wizard doesn't want us seek out knowledge even though he built us to want knowledge.

I never said they weren't or shouldn't have been, I'm saying Yahweh should have been smart enough to understand what he was doing (but then if he had one brain cell in that noggin he wouldn't blame them for it afterward so he ain't that bright anyway). Or how hard would it have been to not tell them about the tree so they never even thought about it or pursued it at all, put it in a really out-of-the-way place, and not worry about it? At least then if the serpent tempted them, they would never have been warned against it and Yahweh would have no grounds to condemn them, not that he ever needed any with his fucked-up sense of what constitutes 'justice'.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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