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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 12:06 am
(June 30, 2017 at 11:40 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (June 30, 2017 at 11:10 pm)Godscreated Wrote: What Lek said is true. Those who know Christ and have a mental break down for whatever reason and take their life, they will be forgiven and spend eternity with God. Those who take their life and do not know Christ will spend eternity in hell, for unforgiven sin.
GC
According to the biblical fairy tale no one spends eternity in hell. On Judgment Day hell gets tossed into the lake of fire, along with people who don't get into the golden cube.
In Islam people do spend eternity in hell.
Which fairy tale are you thinking about? Please show me scriptures books, chapters and verses.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 12:30 am
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2017 at 12:34 am by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(July 1, 2017 at 12:06 am)Godscreated Wrote: (June 30, 2017 at 11:40 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: According to the biblical fairy tale no one spends eternity in hell. On Judgment Day hell gets tossed into the lake of fire, along with people who don't get into the golden cube.
In Islam people do spend eternity in hell.
Which fairy tale are you thinking about? Please show me scriptures books, chapters and verses.
GC
Revelation 20:12-15 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...JV;MSG;GNV
(June 30, 2017 at 11:40 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: According to the biblical fairy tale no one spends eternity in hell. On Judgment Day hell gets tossed into the lake of fire, along with people who don't get into the golden cube.
In Islam people do spend eternity in hell.
Which fairy tale are you thinking about? Please show me scriptures books, chapters and verses.
GC
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Islamic hell = http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/.../hell.html
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 8:45 am
(June 30, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Court Jester Wrote: People don't go to hell for committing suicide, but for refusing God's offer of salvation. Yes, suicide is considered sinful because our lives belong to God. A follower of Christ s
WTF dude? Whatever happened to free will? Or maybe a toaster in the bathtub is all apart of god's master plan. You don't know what god's thinking or planning.
You could hire a hit man to shoot you, if it's murder you go to heaven.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 9:01 am
(June 30, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Lek Wrote: People don't go to hell for committing suicide, but for refusing God's offer of salvation. Yes, suicide is considered sinful because our lives belong to God. A follower of Christ shouldn't consider suicide. The problem is we don't know what the state of a person's mind is at that point and are not equipped to make a judgement concerning that person's salvation. If a person says "God, I know what your will is, but I don't care" I would think that he doesn't want salvation and won't have it. If his mind is messed up, as is the case of many suicide victims, who knows?
That's a little hard to justify, scripturally speaking, if you accept that 'thou shalt do no murder' includes murdering yourself. This makes suicide a mortal sin which cannot be forgiven because the sinner is unable to repent.
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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 9:12 am
(June 30, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I can think of a number of reasons why people should not kill themselves. Your silly fairy tales do not factor into any of them.
I don't think any of those reasons could apply to ones so forsaken as to believe in those silly fairy tales.
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 6:35 pm
(July 1, 2017 at 8:45 am)Succubus Wrote: (June 30, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Court Jester Wrote: People don't go to hell for committing suicide, but for refusing God's offer of salvation. Yes, suicide is considered sinful because our lives belong to God. A follower of Christ s
WTF dude? Whatever happened to free will? Or maybe a toaster in the bathtub is all apart of god's master plan. You don't know what god's thinking or planning.
You could hire a hit man to shoot you, if it's murder you go to heaven.
Why would you hire someone to shoot you? Just put a wad of ones in you pocket sticking out while walking through a bad neighborhood. When you get robbed put up a fight and the robber will shoot you.
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 7:12 pm
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(July 1, 2017 at 12:06 am)Godscreated Wrote: (June 30, 2017 at 11:40 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: According to the biblical fairy tale no one spends eternity in hell. On Judgment Day hell gets tossed into the lake of fire, along with people who don't get into the golden cube.
In Islam people do spend eternity in hell.
Which fairy tale are you thinking about? Please show me scriptures books, chapters and verses.
GC
Awfully goddamn hilarious you can never back up what you're saying even when you do choose to do the same rather than take for granted what your books say like every other ignoramus who doesn't bother to look through their collection of human-speech-print toilet paper. I also have a huge problem with your signature (god loves anyone, believer or otherwise? That's a fucking laugh) but then nothing you ever write makes the slightest bit of sense so what can any of us really expect?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 7:19 pm
(July 1, 2017 at 6:35 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (July 1, 2017 at 8:45 am)Succubus Wrote: You could hire a hit man to shoot you, if it's murder you go to heaven.
Why would you hire someone to shoot you? Just put a wad of ones in you pocket sticking out while walking through a bad neighborhood. When you get robbed put up a fight and the robber will shoot you.
Problem is you might only get wounded.
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 7:21 pm
The problem with G-C is that he thinks the 17th century variant of that pile of shit he thinks is holy has some relevance.
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RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 1, 2017 at 7:41 pm
(July 1, 2017 at 7:19 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 1, 2017 at 6:35 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Why would you hire someone to shoot you? Just put a wad of ones in you pocket sticking out while walking through a bad neighborhood. When you get robbed put up a fight and the robber will shoot you.
Problem is you might only get wounded.
By god, you actually said something that wasn't 100% wrong! It's a miracle!
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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