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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 11:11 am
(October 9, 2010 at 3:16 am)solja247 Wrote: For the past 200-300 years or so Atheism has flourished in developed countries, with atheism, has led to being secular countires, which have made us humans take leaps and bounds in all fields of science. However, is that about to end?
Europe's population is dwindilling, so to keep the economies afloat they get immigrants from developing countries. The major problem is that most immigrants, to Europe are either Muslims or Christians.
Whether the idea of God is a dellusion or not, Atheism isnt a very nice idea (You are a product of nothing and mere chance) most people will not adopt it, espically if they are from a developing country. Since most people will not adopt it and immigrants come from thrid world coutries who are either Muslims and Christians, who keep their faith. Are we going to see the slow and steady decay of Atheism?
I believe so.
I guess the question is, would you prefer to live in a majority Christian or Islamic country?
The problem with Muslims is they can be fired up and cry, 'Jihad' Causing civilised countires into barbaric (Afghanistan) nations. Im not saying all Muslims are like this. However, the worst you will get with a Christian nation is them knocking on your door and having billboards telling you not to have an abortion. Generally, in the 21st century you dont see Christians killing other people, because they believe contrary...
So I personally would prefer to live in a Christian nation, if I was an atheist...
Wow, well that rambles and has little to do with the topic at in the title. I guess I'll try to respond to your main points, as disconnected as they are. I sincerely doubt that Atheism is going to be a short lived idea. It's already been around from time immemorial and will continue so. Also Atheism is not on the decline, but in fact is on a rapid rise, especially in the United States. In fact Christianity is on a rapid decline (especially in the United States.)
Then there is some disconnected comparison between Christianity and Islam and the question about where you'd much rather live. While I would certainly never want to live in an Islamic country, I'm not sure that there even is a Christian country anymore (Maybe Ethiopia?). All of the countries in the west have secular constitutions. The United States most definitely has a secular Constitution and the laws are certainly not a product of Christianity. (The first amendment and the first commandment aren't even compatible.) So I'd most like to live where I do, in the secular west.
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 2:17 pm
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(October 9, 2010 at 3:16 am)solja247 Wrote: For the past 200-300 years or so Atheism has flourished in developed countries, with atheism, has led to being secular countires, which have made us humans take leaps and bounds in all fields of science. However, is that about to end?
Europe's population is dwindilling, so to keep the economies afloat they get immigrants from developing countries. The major problem is that most immigrants, to Europe are either Muslims or Christians.
Whether the idea of God is a dellusion or not, Atheism isnt a very nice idea (You are a product of nothing and mere chance) most people will not adopt it, espically if they are from a developing country. Since most people will not adopt it and immigrants come from thrid world coutries who are either Muslims and Christians, who keep their faith. Are we going to see the slow and steady decay of Atheism?
I believe so.
I guess the question is, would you prefer to live in a majority Christian or Islamic country?
The problem with Muslims is they can be fired up and cry, 'Jihad' Causing civilised countires into barbaric (Afghanistan) nations. Im not saying all Muslims are like this. However, the worst you will get with a Christian nation is them knocking on your door and having billboards telling you not to have an abortion. Generally, in the 21st century you dont see Christians killing other people, because they believe contrary...
So I personally would prefer to live in a Christian nation, if I was an atheist...
Are you asking, "Would you rather be beheaded by idiots.. or yelled at by idiots?"
I'd take yellin idiots every day.. I like, you know, LIVING. lol
I hate the bible. I love that do as thy whilst stuff.
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 2:31 pm
(October 9, 2010 at 3:16 am)solja247 Wrote: So I personally would prefer to live in a Christian nation, if I was an atheist...
Yes, Christianity has been sufficiently muzzled over the last 400 years that given only the option of living in a majority Christian or majority Muslim country, with no other specifics known, like which Christian country or Muslim country (I'd rather live in Turkey than Uganda) I'd pick Christian.
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 2:33 pm
So now we're all replying to the four year old post?
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 2:45 pm
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(October 9, 2010 at 5:19 am)solja247 Wrote: China also has the most Christians in it as well. China will probably be a Christian nation some time soon...
China has the largest population of any country. Even their minorities are more numerous than most country's majorities.
(October 9, 2010 at 5:19 am)solja247 Wrote: I dont know how much you know about China, but millions of Chinese are becoming Christians. I was in Hong Kong and I saw a Christian reading their Bible in Maccas! they even invited me to church! Atheism has no hope when Christians act like a loving community, like they do in China.
Christianity is the fastest-growing minority religion in China. Mormonism is the fastest-growing minority religion in the USA. The USA is not going to become majority Mormon, either. Anecdotes are not the plural of data. Some Chinese Christian movements are led by people claiming to be the return of Jesus. This is not going to turn out like you imagine, I think. Generously estimating PRC Christians at 100 million makes them about 10% of China's population. The CIA World Factbook makes it 4-5%.
(October 9, 2010 at 5:19 am)solja247 Wrote: 10 points for attempting to derail this thread.
If you consider that a derail, maybe you shouldn't have mentioned 'the worst that Christians can do'.
(October 9, 2010 at 5:19 am)solja247 Wrote: I dont know. I know a lot of immigrants from third-wrold countries who do hold onto their faith. Remember, immigrants ussally are community centred than us in the developed world...
Typically in the first and second generations. In the USA it's a truism that by the third generation, you're primarily American.
(October 9, 2010 at 5:19 am)solja247 Wrote: No. If I had to live in any religious society, it would be a Buddhist society. Christians can be really crazy lol.
I couldn't think of a Buddhist society I'd rather live in than the USA.
(March 11, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So now we're all replying to the four year old post?
Yep, but I blame 777 for necro-ing it rather than my own lack of observational acuity.
Too bad, it was more interesting than the current threads.
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 2:59 pm
Oh man... look at all the people at the beginning of the post who never show up any more.
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 3:31 pm
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Quote:regimes that are somewhat oppressive
You have a talent for understatement, dear.
(March 11, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So now we're all replying to the four year old post?
I'm replying to the nut who resurrected it, yesterday. First time anything has been resurrected!
I wonder how many pages he had to go back in the archives to find it?
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 4:01 pm
(October 9, 2010 at 3:16 am)solja247 Wrote: For the past 200-300 years or so Atheism has flourished in developed countries, with atheism, has led to being secular countires, which have made us humans take leaps and bounds in all fields of science. However, is that about to end?
Europe's population is dwindilling, so to keep the economies afloat they get immigrants from developing countries. The major problem is that most immigrants, to Europe are either Muslims or Christians.
Whether the idea of God is a dellusion or not, Atheism isnt a very nice idea (You are a product of nothing and mere chance)
I know that this post is old, but I want to put this "chance" bullshit to rest.
It's not chance. It's something called progress. You build yourself up slowly. Are you born an adult? No! You fucking grow! Imagine evolution as a mountain, with humans at the top. One slope is steep and impossible, the other easy and shallow, but long. Which side seems better? The shallow one, dumbass!
Sometimes the stupidity of some people makes me just crawl in a hole and die.
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 5:35 pm
I think atheist need to be within the Christian community, who else will keep it honest, and keep it out of politics, so we all can be free.
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RE: Atheism, the short lived idea?
March 11, 2014 at 5:49 pm
Short lived idea my butthole. Atheism has been around longer than all the theisms. Bitchez.
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