Can God be seen in the maths?

[Pat Mustard]

Thanks, but it's not just Flew who says God can be "seen" in the maths, it's other scientists too, so we're caught in the middle not knowing whether to believe them or not.
For example here are a couple more quotes-
"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that [b]a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature."-Fred Hoyle (British astrophysicist): The Universe: Past and Present Reflections. Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics: 20:16.

Well consideting that outside his very narrow competency within physics, Hoyle managed to back any bullshit going, how do you think he was any different wrt god? I mean this is the man who equated evolution with a tornado in a junkyard assembling a 747, the man who said the Big Bang was wrong simply because he didn't like it (he coined the name trying to knock it).

"As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?"- George Greenstein (astronomer),1988. The Symbiotic Universe. New York: William Morrow, p.27 

Oh, well done you, you know how to quote mine. Here's a gold star for your effort.



Actually, no, I rescind that gold star, it isn't even well disguised quote mining. Even taken out of the context of the book in which it was written, it is obvious that what you've presented to us here is a couple of rhetorical questions designed solely to mock idiots like you who rabbit on about how "science proves god". Pity then that you're a fucking piece of shit who has to resort to lying and quote mining to try to support your case, rather than a genuine and honest search for any evidence which may either prove or disprove your case.

[Cyberman]

Here's a little tip, Dropship. Instead of pulling quotes off creationist sites that may or may not represent the personal beliefs of individual scientists, try presenting the evidence that points unequivocally to a god in actual published and peer-reviewed papers.

[brewer]

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For small enough values of one, this is true.

I see some real beauty in mathematics, sometimes just from a trigonometric identity solution. This is one of my favorite pictures.

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Zoom, got a skid mark in my hair. I've no clue what that means.

[The Grand Nudger]

Thanks, so when scientists hint they can see God in the mathematical layout of the universe, are they wrong?

If the evidence that lead them to their conclusion is anything like the evidence you've offered in thread....then...yeah.  

Next?

[Alex K]

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For small enough values of one, this is true.

I see some real beauty in mathematics, sometimes just from a trigonometric identity solution. This is one of my favorite pictures.

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Zoom, got a skid mark in my hair. I've no clue what that means.

Most of it doesn't mean anything really, but merely gives you definitions, namely what ratios in a triangle are called Sine and Cosine. The only really nontrivial statement here is that e^ix=cos(x)+i sin(x), i.e. that the exponential function contains sine and cosine if you plug imaginary numbers in. That is always fascinating because at first glance, exponential growth and periodic oscillations seem to be completely separate things. Yet, if you take the mathematical function describing exponential growth and plug imaginary numbers in rather than ordinary real numbers, you get an oscillation.

[Cyberman]

you get an oscillation.

[Minimalist]

Flew's mind apparently turned to jelly.  Jesus likes them stupid, you know.

Thanks but I thought JC wants REBELS, or have I got it wrong?
For example his young cousin John was a world-rejecter living rough in the wilderness, sometimes going in town to yell insults at the snooty priests and corrupt rulers who later killed him.
Jesus's verdict on him?- "John is the greatest man ever to be born"

For example I googled this pic of John in action against Herod and his floozy-

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So the creator of the universe came to the Middle East 2000 years ago to speak to a few toothless goat herders and has been hiding on toast, dog's arses and in mathematics since then?

Is there any reason at all why he can't come and show himself to us today? Like he did then? Unless of course he didn't really come down at all and those cheeky Arabs just made it all up!

A football coach doesn't keep running onto the pitch during games to instruct his players, rather he tells them the game plan before the match then goes to the sidelines to watch how they do.
Anyway Jesus said "I'll be back"  when the game's over..

So...just curious but how much of that silly bible bullshit do you think really happened?

[Cyberman]

I just googled "martians" and found this:



QED.

[JackRussell]

I think the game was over when he said he would be back within a generation. He's kinda late, and there's no reason to think he even existed. Even if he did exist, was born by pathogenesis, could do party tricks and rise from the dead, that doesn't mean he was the son of a god. Just a really lucky bastard.

[brewer]

Zoom, got a skid mark in my hair. I've no clue what that means.

Most of it doesn't mean anything really, but merely gives you definitions, namely what ratios in a triangle are called Sine and Cosine. The only really nontrivial statement here is that e^ix=cos(x)+i sin(x), i.e. that the exponential function contains sine and cosine if you plug imaginary numbers in. That is always fascinating because at first glance, exponential growth and periodic oscillations seem to be completely separate things. Yet, if you take the mathematical function describing exponential growth and plug imaginary numbers in rather than ordinary real numbers, you get an oscillation.

OUCH!

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I think the game was over when he said he would be back within a generation. He's kinda late, and there's no reason to think he even existed.  Even if he did exist, was born by pathogenesis, could do party tricks and rise from the dead, that doesn't mean he was the son of a god. Just a really lucky bastard.

I love that you think it's a pathogen. Quite fitting to be considered a disease of mankind. Made me chuckle.