How to shoot yourself in the foot lessons.

[Succubus]

By the Vatican.

As if those arseholes didn't have enough real issues to contend with.


So gluten, which is natural, is banned, but GMS's which are unnatural are not?

Based on the above, I would say if something is not entirely gluten-free, then gluten isn't banned. It still has gluten in it.

I know.

Edit, I made a balls of that, but fuck it.

[Joods]

[Cough]


Most chtistians don't know what they believe, or why they are supposed believe it.

Pretty sure that the Catholic church doesn't consider parishioners who don't believe every jot and tittle of Catholic dogma to be Catholics.  Could be wrong on that, though.

Pretty sure it would take one of those infallible papal decrees to change that, and as far as I am aware, that's not happened since the Council of Trent.

Apparently, not all Catholics are up on their catechism.  Big surprise.

I was brought up Catholic for most of my childhood. I vividly remember that the church we attended was very clear on those who had never received their "First Communion" were no allowed to take communion during mass. It was a ritual we had to go through. If you didn't go through it, you had to let everyone pass you as they waited to receive their communion wafers. 

Again - glad I'm no longer involved in any religious bull shit, but the only thing this taught me was that you had to partake in some special made up church ritual and if you didn't, then you weren't special enough to receive the blood and body of christ every sunday.

[GUBU]

Pretty sure that the Catholic church doesn't consider parishioners who don't believe every jot and tittle of Catholic dogma to be Catholics.

It depends really. When somebody is looking to get married, buried, their children baptised, comfirmed or into school, they're not proper catlick without all the mumbo jumbo. But when the catlick church wants handouts (either from the government or the person themselves) any vague affirmatives are taken as proof positive that the person in question is 100% doctrinaire.

[Joods]

Pretty sure that the Catholic church doesn't consider parishioners who don't believe every jot and tittle of Catholic dogma to be Catholics.

It depends really. When somebody is looking to get married, buried, their children baptised, comfirmed or into school, they're not proper catlick without all the mumbo jumbo. But when the catlick church wants handouts (either from the government or the person themselves) any vague affirmatives are taken as proof positive that the person in question is 100% doctrinaire.

emphasis mine.

I'm gonna disagree with that. My mother was married in a catholic church. Twice. To two different men and I didn't get enrolled into catholic school until I was in 4th grade. Nearly all of my classmates had received their first communion in 1st grade. I didn't get mine until 4th grade. I was enrolled back in public school by 7th grade.

Moreover - I was still a believer when I had my oldest. She was christened at two months old in a catholic church. I wasn't married to her dad either. I didn't have any special catholic requirements for any of that shit - neither did my mother. She was a divorcee` twice over when she got married to her third husband in a catholic church.

[Jackalope]

Pretty sure that the Catholic church doesn't consider parishioners who don't believe every jot and tittle of Catholic dogma to be Catholics.  Could be wrong on that, though.

Pretty sure it would take one of those infallible papal decrees to change that, and as far as I am aware, that's not happened since the Council of Trent.

Apparently, not all Catholics are up on their catechism.  Big surprise.

Big red herring.

I'm pretty sure I was agreeing with you and that your sarcasm detector is broken.

[Succubus]

Big red herring.

I'm pretty sure I was agreeing with you and that your sarcasm detector is broken.

Awe fek. So you were

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

All of them, actually.
Boru

[Cough]

About half of those polled (52%) say, incorrectly, that Catholicism teaches that the bread and wine used for Communion are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus. Just four-in-ten people correctly answer that, according to the Catholic Church, the bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus. Even many Catholics are unaware of their church’s teaching on this topic; while 55% of Catholics get the question right, more than four-in-ten Catholics (41%) say the church teaches that the bread and wine are symbols of Christ’s body and blood, and 3% say they do not know what the church’s teaching is. Still, Catholics perform better on this question than does any other religious group.

Most chtistians don't know what they believe, or why they are supposed believe it.

[slight sneeze]

Catholics are required  to believe in transubstantiation.  To fail to do so makes one not a Catholic.  Thus, all Catholics, without exception and by definition, believe that the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ.

To forestall the inevitable objection, this isn't a NTS issue - this is the doctrine of the Church.  Their game, their rules.

Boru

[Succubus]

So there aren’t 1.2 billion Catholics in the world, there are 600 million. I see.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So there aren’t 1.2 billion Catholics in the world, there are 600 million. I see.

According to official dogma, yes. If you disbelieve in transubstantiation through ignorance, you can accept it and be forgiven. To actively reject the doctrine makes you anathema. 

Boru

[vorlon13]

thinking about possible booger residue on priests fingers when placing the communion wafer is also grounds for excommunication


Curiously, worrying about dried semen isn't . . .